How to hang off the bike - Page 9

Mr Lefty · 07-13-2008, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by OneSickPsycho

I just realized what that picture is behind Edwards..

that's why Europe rules... even if you got that logo passed what ever approving body there is... it wouldn't last long before it was boycotted

funny thing is I saw it right away.. and was like... no... I'm just perverted...

Gunther1000 · 07-30-2008, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Trip

When you get to the gap I will give you some pointers and follow you for a pass or two to see if I notice anything.

Well that would have been great!

ceo012384 · 07-31-2008, 07:28 PM

Another tip: this helped me a LOT after and instructor helped me with it.

Move your butt EARLY. I move before I even start braking. As I'm rolling off the throttle, I shift my butt over. Then I get on the brakes really hard and in order to stay loose on the bars, all my pressure is against the tank with the inside of my thigh, holding me in place. (essentially I use one of my reference points to move my butt over, which makes me always do it at the right time)

Then, as I trail off the brakes all I have to do is drop my torso since I'm already in position, look through the turn, and get on the throttle

I see a lot of people at the track hopping into their hang-off position right as they are about to make their turn-in input. When you get faster, that shit doesn't fly... you're upsetting the suspension too much.

Trip · 07-31-2008, 07:39 PM

Every instructor I have dealt with and locals I worked with said to make your entry one fluid motion. Shifting, moving, braking, getting setup should all be one fluid motion so the suspension should only be effected once. Obviously this would take an insane amount of practice.

DLIT · 07-31-2008, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ceo012384

Another tip: this helped me a LOT after and instructor helped me with it.

Move your butt EARLY. I move before I even start braking. As I'm rolling off the throttle, I shift my butt over. Then I get on the brakes really hard and in order to stay loose on the bars, all my pressure is against the tank with the inside of my thigh, holding me in place. (essentially I use one of my reference points to move my butt over, which makes me always do it at the right time)

Then, as I trail off the brakes all I have to do is drop my torso since I'm already in position, look through the turn, and get on the throttle

I see a lot of people at the track hopping into their hang-off position right as they are about to make their turn-in input. When you get faster, that shit doesn't fly... you're upsetting the suspension too much.

Read my posts, I already mentioned that.

ceo012384 · 07-31-2008, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Trip

Every instructor I have dealt with and locals I worked with said to make your entry one fluid motion. Shifting, moving, braking, getting setup should all be one fluid motion so the suspension should only be effected once. Obviously this would take an insane amount of practice.

Exactly.

Another thing to try is what an instructor told me called 'brottle' and 'thrake'... where you have a little bit of overlap when you transition from brakes to gas and vice-versa. It makes the suspension move once instead of twice.

This technique is VERY useful in the rain.

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Originally Posted by DLIT

Read my posts, I already mentioned that.

I hate you.

DLIT · 07-31-2008, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ceo012384

I hate you.

Ignorant cunt.

dReWpY · 07-31-2008, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Trip

You can loose without notice while riding correctly, tires play an important role in this even when they are hot. Pilot powers have what I like to call a death rattle before they decide they have had enough. It kinda feels like vibration to let you know you are about to be on your ass. Qualifiers from my experience just start slipping. Corsa IIIs seem to follow the Qs line of thinking.

supercorsa's just kind of slide, the good kind of "nice easy predictable back end is doing its thing, dont mind it" wholesome fun...

Trip · 07-31-2008, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by drewpy

supercorsa's just kind of slide, the good kind of "nice easy predictable back end is doing its thing, dont mind it" wholesome fun...

Kyle said Bargy says you are not trying hard enough unless you are sliding the tires.

dReWpY · 07-31-2008, 07:47 PM

good to know that i can try hard enough when i am trying my hardest...

need more seat time on the track and "special" Gap time this fall and winter

07-31-2008, 07:28 PM	#83
ceo012384 Pompous Prick Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: MA Moto: 06 R6 (race), 04 CRF Tard (race) Posts: 3,040	Another tip: this helped me a LOT after and instructor helped me with it. Move your butt EARLY. I move before I even start braking. As I'm rolling off the throttle, I shift my butt over. Then I get on the brakes really hard and in order to stay loose on the bars, all my pressure is against the tank with the inside of my thigh, holding me in place. (essentially I use one of my reference points to move my butt over, which makes me always do it at the right time) Then, as I trail off the brakes all I have to do is drop my torso since I'm already in position, look through the turn, and get on the throttle I see a lot of people at the track hopping into their hang-off position right as they are about to make their turn-in input. When you get faster, that shit doesn't fly... you're upsetting the suspension too much. __________________ LRRS/CCS #123 Boston Moto Dunlop Woodcraft 35 Motorsports Sidi Pit Bull K&N Filters