GA anti-immigrant law "working."

[Avatard]

Yep. Stupid.

Incarceration is the punishment.

What you propose just adds further insult to injury for those incarcerated unjustly (which, unfortunately, due to our war on drugs, is actually the majority).

[OneSickPsycho]

Originally Posted by Avatard

Yep. Stupid.

Incarceration is the punishment.

What you propose just adds further insult to injury for those incarcerated unjustly (which, unfortunately, due to our war on drugs, is actually the majority).

Oh, people unjustly incarcerated? Like people who didn't break the law? I agree wholeheartedly in that case. People who didn't break the law shouldn't be punished. /thread

[Avatard]

...and people in jail for breaking unjust laws shouldn't be TWICE punished.

But I don't expect you to understand that.

Yep. Stupid.

...And mean too.

[Tmall]

Originally Posted by Avatard

...and people in jail for breaking unjust laws shouldn't be TWICE punished.

But I don't expect you to understand that.

Yep. Stupid.

...And mean too.

But, don't you get it?? He has a pic of a guy in a hannibal lecter mask, and his screen name is One Sick Psycho.. AKA: image, betcha he drives an auto..

Ps. I'm drunk. Fuck you OSP.

[OneSickPsycho]

Originally Posted by Avatard

...and people in jail for breaking unjust laws shouldn't be TWICE punished.

But I don't expect you to understand that.

Yep. Stupid.

...And mean too.

Again... you fail to recognize that they had a choice... They CHOSE to break the law, stupid law or not... it's not like the consequences are a big fucking secret. I guess that's too complicated of a concept for you to understand.

[101lifts2]

Originally Posted by OneSickPsycho

Again... you fail to recognize that they had a choice... They CHOSE to break the law, stupid law or not... it's not like the consequences are a big fucking secret. I guess that's too complicated of a concept for you to understand.

He is not arguing consequences of the law, rather the baselessness of the law so I don't know why you keep bringing this up.

Prisions were made in large numbers for the sole purpose of creating a transfer of wealth from the taxpaper to a select group of individuals who could profit from it.. You stir propaganda to the masses (show black people with guns with a bag of weed, broken households, fighting etc.), contribute heavily to the "tuff on crime" lawmakers and hope that the masses vote for these lawmakers so they can legislate filling up your hotels. Then more money to be made in the judicial system/ law enforcement arena.

Now do this with...the war on terror, the war on global warming...the war on healthcare...the war on cap and trade...See a pattern? It's about money, not about rehabilitation or stopping drug usage.

If everyone "obeyed" the law and stopped doing drugs illegally, the transfer of wealth would just move to something else as long as they could get the masses behind it using propaganda...i.e. speeding in excess of 90mph...JAIL TIME!!

[askmrjesus]

Originally Posted by 101lifts2

He is not arguing consequences of the law, rather the baselessness of the law so I don't know why you keep bringing this up.

Prisions were made in large numbers for the sole purpose of creating a transfer of wealth from the taxpaper to a select group of individuals who could profit from it.. You stir propaganda to the masses (show black people with guns with a bag of weed, broken households, fighting etc.), contribute heavily to the "tuff on crime" lawmakers and hope that the masses vote for these lawmakers so they can legislate filling up your hotels. Then more money to be made in the judicial system/ law enforcement arena.

Now do this with...the war on terror, the war on global warming...the war on healthcare...the war on cap and trade...See a pattern? It's about money, not about rehabilitation or stopping drug usage.

If everyone "obeyed" the law and stopped doing drugs illegally, the transfer of wealth would just move to something else as long as they could get the masses behind it using propaganda...i.e. speeding in excess of 90mph...JAIL TIME!!

Excellent post, and spot on.

One of the biggest reasons pot is still illegal, is the boom of the private prison industry (which itself use to be illegal) since the mid-eighties.

For those of you unaware of how this works, I suggest reading this:

http://www.correctionsproject.com/co.../pris_priv.htm

JC

[anthonyk]

Originally Posted by 101lifts2

He is not arguing consequences of the law, rather the baselessness of the law so I don't know why you keep bringing this up.

Avatard seems to be suggesting that drug offenders should be exempt from at least some (if not all) of the consequences of breaking the law, because he thinks the law is unjust. That's why it keeps coming up.

Great post outlining the ridiculousness of the war on drugs, but you're preaching to the choir. Nobody has argued that the drug laws or prison system are just or fair. The system is obviously broken, but that doesn't mean you can just ignore it while you work to fix it.

[Avatard]

DEFINITELY drives an auto trans. Thinks owners of manuals should pick lettuce.

[Avatard]

You're right about one thing. You can find data to support any position.

http://www.skeptically.org/recdrugs/id8.html

http://www.nytimes.com/1998/01/09/us...f-inmates.html

http://www.drugwarfacts.org/cms/Prisons_and_Jails

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incarce..._United_States

http://law.jrank.org/pages/1809/Pris...-on-drugs.html

I could go on...but you have Google on your computer as well, I'm sure.

The truth is that the war on drugs has wrought considerable collateral damage in society, and is, flat out, a dismal failure. The true overall crime percentage that the illegal drug black market inspires reaches far beyond the arrests for drug possession & distribution.