High Fructose Corn Syrup Causes More Weight Gain Than Sugar

[Homeslice]

Originally Posted by Avatard

It's also more fattening than meat, and green vegetables, which I believe was the fucking point.

Corn makes you fucking fat. I didn't think it was hard to understand.

They feed it to livestock to fucking fatten them.

HFCS is fattening too, I believe I read it somewhere...

Corn might make cows fat, but that's not surprising since they sit around confined all day. Is it more fattening than grass, no shit, almost anything would be more fattening than grass. But that says nothing about humans, especially active ones who have no problem burning off carbs. Besides, like 101 said, the carbs in corn aren't that bad, its glycemic index isn't nearly as high as shit like Wonder bread.

It is the hormones and other shit that should concern you more.

[Apoc]

Wow, theres a lot of wrong opinions in this thread, and not much right.

Good work guys. Now im going to have to spend an hour of my time later to make you all understand how this shit works.

For some reason I didnt read this thread till now, too much fail to deal with all at once.

[Captain Morgan]

Originally Posted by Apoc

Wow, theres a lot of wrong opinions in this thread, and not much right.

Good work guys. Now im going to have to spend an hour of my time later to make you all understand how this shit works.

For some reason I didnt read this thread till now, too much fail to deal with all at once.

Looking forward to hearing it.

[Apoc]

Originally Posted by Captain Morgan

Looking forward to hearing it.

Its nothing that complicated. Basicly, it comes down to the way your body uses carbohydrates. I dont need idiots with mice to tell me that drinking massive amounts of corn syrop will make me fat.

We have this thing called the glycemic index. Im sure a lot of people here understand what that is. Basicly, the higher the number, the faster those carbs digest and spike your blood sugar. The lower the number, the slower they digest, and your blood sugar stays much steadier.

This brings us to what happens when your blood sugar spikes. Your body stores fat. Thats why most athletes eat carb/protein and fat/protein meals, rarely mixing the three, because if you dont mix carbs and fat, and eat at regular intervals, then your body will not store any of those calories (in fat), and instead use them for energy.

So, that brings us to blaming corn sugar, and not our own eating habits. Soda for instance, is full of corn sugar. Now for the average person, a glass of soda alone in the afternoon will cause little to no harm. Thats because corn syrup isnt the problem, diet is.

Instead of enjoying that small glass of pepsi alone, an hour or so before dinner, we have it with a huge dinner, possibly multiple glasses. A dinner, that for most North Americans is very rich in protein, carbohydrated and fat.

So those two baked potatoes, which have a fairly high glycemic index themselves, smothered in extremely fatty sour cream, with a big juicy t-bone, and two glasses of soda is a recipe for immediate storage of fat. The vast majority of the calories you took in will be stored as fat, because you raised your blood sugar a point, and the bodies natural reaction at that point is to store fat.

So no, the problem isnt with corn syrop. The problem is with a lack of education on nutritional and eating habits. Corn syrop in moderation will not make you obese. Corn syrop as used in the average americans diet, will.

[101lifts2]

Originally Posted by Apoc

..... Thats why most athletes eat carb/protein and fat/protein meals, rarely mixing the three, because if you dont mix carbs and fat, and eat at regular intervals, then your body will not store any of those calories (in fat), and instead use them for energy......

Yup...this is what I do. Works well.

Nice writeup Apoc...but Avatard is still gonna tout how corn is making America fat. lol

[Apoc]

Originally Posted by 101lifts2

Yup...this is what I do. Works well.

Nice writeup Apoc...but Avatard is still gonna tout how corn is making America fat. lol

Yet, Avatard will still be wrong...

[Captain Morgan]

Originally Posted by Apoc

This brings us to what happens when your blood sugar spikes. Your body stores fat. Thats why most athletes eat carb/protein and fat/protein meals, rarely mixing the three, because if you dont mix carbs and fat, and eat at regular intervals, then your body will not store any of those calories (in fat), and instead use them for energy.

Originally Posted by 101lifts2

Yup...this is what I do. Works well.

Hmm, guess I have some changes to make and a lot of studying to do. I'm looking to bulk up without getting fat, but I'm not trying to get huge. I'm a severe lightweight compared to the both of you (and most people in any gym), but hope you can give some good advice to a somewhat scrawny 36 year old. I'm 5'7, 150 lbs, 20% body fat, if that gives you any ideas of what I should do. Again, I have no goals (or delusions) of being a bodybuilder or powerlifter, I just want to bulk up a bit and trim the fat below 15%. Yes, I know, they will have to be done seperately, but give me some good ideas on some good meals, please. At this point, I'd probably be happy at 160 and 15% BF, but that may change after I get to that point.

[Kaneman]

Originally Posted by Apoc

So no, the problem isnt with corn syrop. The problem is with a lack of education on nutritional and eating habits. Corn syrop in moderation will not make you obese. Corn syrop as used in the average americans diet, will.

Exactly, "as used in the average American diet", which is what we're talking about here. Corn subsidies that put it in everything we eat and drive the cost of those products down, making them much cheaper than healthy foods like a head of lettuce or a bunch of carrots.

Corn syrup is the worst way corn makes it into our food, and corn syrup has the worst effect on our bodies...yet it is in everything that the average American eats. You're talking about nutritional education.....and that's just not going to happen dude. People are idiots, and they don't give a flying fuck aside from that. Very few people will take the time to learn about what they're eating, how it affects their bodies or so on and so forth....they simply (for whatever reason) buy the cheapest and most convenient foods.

And that's what we're "rallying" against. We want variety in food, decently priced vegetables and less junk food. So in the big picture, yes, corn is very bad for you. A corn cob alone will not hurt you or make you fat....but its when you put all these pieces together that it becomes a serious problem for the American society.

[shmike]

Originally Posted by Kaneman

Exactly, "as used in the average American diet", which is what we're talking about here. Corn subsidies that put it in everything we eat and drive the cost of those products down, making them much cheaper than healthy foods like a head of lettuce or a bunch of carrots.

And that's what we're "rallying" against. We want variety in food, decently priced vegetables and less junk food. So in the big picture, yes, corn is very bad for you. A corn cob alone will not hurt you or make you fat....but its when you put all these pieces together that it becomes a serious problem for the American society.

Low cost is a HUGE issue.

We have become a Wal-Mart society. Everyone wants everything cheaper but then want to bitch about quality too.

You can't have it all.

In 1901, an "urban" American family dedicated over 46% of their budget to food and beverages.

Today that number is under 12%.

You can eat cheap or you can eat well.

[Apoc]

Originally Posted by Kaneman

Exactly, "as used in the average American diet", which is what we're talking about here. Corn subsidies that put it in everything we eat and drive the cost of those products down, making them much cheaper than healthy foods like a head of lettuce or a bunch of carrots.

Corn syrup is the worst way corn makes it into our food, and corn syrup has the worst effect on our bodies...yet it is in everything that the average American eats. You're talking about nutritional education.....and that's just not going to happen dude. People are idiots, and they don't give a flying fuck aside from that. Very few people will take the time to learn about what they're eating, how it affects their bodies or so on and so forth....they simply (for whatever reason) buy the cheapest and most convenient foods.

And that's what we're "rallying" against. We want variety in food, decently priced vegetables and less junk food. So in the big picture, yes, corn is very bad for you. A corn cob alone will not hurt you or make you fat....but its when you put all these pieces together that it becomes a serious problem for the American society.

Nobody is forcing anyone to eat that much corn product. Its being bought hand over fist by personal choice. The problem isnt with corn, the problem is with not caring. Its mass produced BECAUSE theres such a demand for it.

Im yet to find a grocery store that doesnt give me other options. If the average person is too dumb to educate themselves, then good. Maybe they'll die off quickly and they will become extinct. (I know, I know, no chance. But I can dream)