$447 bil

[Homeslice]

Originally Posted by RACER X

qualify rich please.

and rich being based on yrly income, not net worth.

Doesn't matter, what matters is that they got tax cuts several years ago, with no guarantee that those cuts would be permanent. Now "they" are crying like a baby, acting all suprised that anyone would even CONSIDER raising taxes, when in fact they were higher years ago.

Doesn't matter what group of people you take more money from, rich or poor or middle class, they will always protest it. What else is new?

[RACER X]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

Doesn't matter, what matters is that they got tax cuts several years ago, with no guarantee that those cuts would be permanent. Now "they" are crying like a baby, acting all suprised that anyone would even CONSIDER raising taxes, when in fact they were higher years ago.

Doesn't matter what group of people you take more money from, rich or poor or middle class, they will always protest it. What else is new?

if you tax the rich more, you should tax "the poor" the same........

[Homeslice]

Originally Posted by RACER X

if you tax the rich more, you should tax "the poor" the same........

I don't believe that's ever happened in our country's history, since we've always had a progressive tax curve IIRC.

Tax the poor enough, and they won't be able to participate in the consumer economy, which is 2/3 of our GDP

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by RACER X

if you tax the rich more, you should tax "the poor" the same........

"The Rich" are currently taxed at a lower rate than they have been in the last 80 years. They can afford it a little more than can "The Poor."

[Kaneman]

WTF is up with talking about cutting all the enjoyable parts of public school to save money while the country squanders billions upon billions upon billions on wars in shitholes that will always be shitholes?

Smittie wants us to be a bunch of robots I think. Ever heard of fun and quality of life? For fuck sakes...

[101lifts2]

Originally Posted by Kaneman

WTF is up with talking about cutting all the enjoyable parts of public school to save money while the country squanders billions upon billions upon billions on wars in shitholes that will always be shitholes?

Smittie wants us to be a bunch of robots I think. Ever heard of fun and quality of life? For fuck sakes...

Agree 1000%.

Want to cut costs? Get out of these other fucking countries and stop starting wars in the name of the money transfer scheme.

Sports builds teamwork, drive and direction. Not to mention it keeps people active. It also gets the chicks.

[pauldun170]

the tax rate debate always comes across as misleading since our tax system is more than just "rates". Our tax system is designed to promote behaviors deemed beneficial for society.
Home ownership, going to college, having children, saving money (and spending money in ways thought to be beneficial for society)
While democrats and republicans talk bs about who should pay a higher rate or if we should lower rates, the effective rate that people actually pay is quite different.

A head of household who makes $100,000 putting a kid through college will potentially pay less in taxes than some single person renting, spending all their money on toys making $30K.
Even a single person making $100,000 could potentially pay less in taxes (as a %) then someone making 30K if they use their income in the right way. Its all in the tax code.

If you eliminate the tax code and go to a flat tax or national sales tax, the impact on will be huge and it will hit the middle class hardest becoming a massive increase in actual taxes paid.
Those who would benefit would be all those broke motherfuckers who contribute nothing to society.

This as been brought to you buy the "Split be bill evenly party"
No more of this percentage business...End of the year, the government passes the bill around the table and the entire population splits the bill evenly.

[azoomm]

Tell you what, I'll take the advice of an actual university administrator over a random forum poster over what classes she takes that will apply to her college career.

[askmrjesus]

Originally Posted by azoomm

Tell you what, I'll take the advice of an actual university administrator over a random forum poster over what classes she takes that will apply to her college career.

Are you sure you want to gamble with your daughter's future like that?

Seems risky.

JC

[Smittie61984]

Originally Posted by azoomm

Tell you what, I'll take the advice of an actual university administrator over a random forum poster over what classes she takes that will apply to her college career.

Or how about take actual advice from someone who is doing it. University Administrators will fuck you over in a second, just to get you out the door (or in the door in your case). What is your daughter wanting to do? Doctor (though I bet Vet)? Then you are wasting time and other people's (including yours) money by having her in an anatomy class. If she is a biology major or some other hard science major then that class will not count (unless they are willing to make it a free elective). It'd be better for her to concentrate on another class that she can skip in college. That way she can concentrate on her real classes that really count (no matter what degree she goes for).

AMJ:
THe point I'm getting at is schools tell people they can't do it and that they are not cut out for it. Pretty shitty thing to tell a 14 year old. So I went through believing them. It wasn't until after high school I decided to go back to school and turns out I'm great at college. I picked one of the absolute hardest degrees anyone could get (biology majors can't stand what I do) and I've done nothing but As except for a B in Public Speaking and in World Literature. English has never been my strong suit.

I'm wanting schools to educate kids to the point that when they turn 18 and are out of high school, they can say "fuck it, I'm going to go to college afterall" and then do it and be prepared for it. Most AP kids aren't prepared for college anyways. I had kids in my Calc 1 class who had AP Calculus and couldn't derive and failed. Same for my general chemistry. Dumbasses couldn't even balance a reaction or understand a mole, yet they have already had chemistry in high school (where I had none).