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03-07-2010, 04:52 PM | #1 | |
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Do you think that other people in other professions don't work hard hours like that? Your average CEO and even doctors would dream of a 60-70 hour work week. How many people do you think come home and just forget their work until they clock in the next day? How many people travel for weeks on end for projects outside of their area. When I moved pool tables one thing I noticed is just about every house had an office. Why have an office if you "just go home" unlike teachers. Our school systems are failing miserably and America is the laughingstock of the other countries when it comes to education. Oddly enough our colleges are top notch which draws students from around the world. College teachers are not paid much better than public school teachers (and they HAVE to have much greater knowledge than a simple education degree). They still aren't paid as good as some Union monkey at a GM assemly plant but that's another subject. I'd be more open to teachers getting better pay IF they can turn the education system around. You don't do it by demanding more money, you do it through hard work and working with the people above you for realistic solutoins. After that, then you demand more money and rightfully so.
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03-07-2010, 09:37 PM | #2 | |
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I'm not claiming other professions don't work hard or only work 40 hours a week so stop putting words in my mouth. Actually, nevermind. This is not a discussion or debate with you...it's a pissing match where you are so blatantly misled by the actions of a few to determine the hearts of many that it's not worth it. But like goof said, teachers are paid what the market "bears" so to speak. No one gets into teaching thinking they're going to make it rich. Oh and call ONE of my degrees a simple degree again and.....goddamnit I almost got caught on that one. I can't win a pissing match with you....you've got the advantage of a hose to aim your fire. |
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03-08-2010, 10:38 AM | #3 | |
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He's also the kind of guy who will say, "You'd better not raise my taxes" and when questioned about his tax rate, he lets slip that he doesn't actually pay anything into the system.. Go figure. |
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03-09-2010, 12:19 PM | #4 | |
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Teachers remind me of the models you see in exotic destinations bitching about how "hard" it is being a model. The truth is many teahcers have no concept of hard, mainly becuase they've gone to school their entire life and are essentially going back to school for the rest of their life. The fact they they have some responsibility makes them think they have it hard. Also, if it is so fucking hard and the pay sucks so much then why is their an overabundance of teachers? I don't believe there is an overabundance of mechanical engineers and I think they average about 50k (and they have a REAL degree) which is also close to a teacher's average pay. You do have an education degree don't you? No suprise.
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03-09-2010, 12:33 PM | #5 | ||
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We had a similar discussion on a local board a while back. I am going to share some thoughts from a local mechanic-turned-teacher: Quote:
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03-09-2010, 02:33 PM | #6 | |
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Undergraduate degree in something Completely unrelated to teaching. Knowing that I wanted to teach, I went back to school for my M Ed. You seem to think I made a bunch of arguments, I just refuted yours. Others have made the arguments, both for and against. Unsurprisingly, you are young and lack any glimmer of the real world. |
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03-08-2010, 11:45 AM | #7 | |
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The hours that an intern puts in are stupidly long, for little effective compensation. This is considers a paying of dues in order to get into the profession, after which they receive relatively high levels of compensation. There have been a rather large number of articles written, over the years, suggesting that the method of internship should be changed because it results in far to many medical mistakes, even deaths, because the interns are operating on little or no sleep for extended periods. If you're doing work that you aren't compensated for then that's your issue. I've been there, myself, putting in several thousand dollars worth of uncompensated overtime while setting up for a government project because I was "management." That was my problem and I took corrective steps, when it all came down.
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03-07-2010, 09:50 PM | #8 |
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Blame the government
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03-09-2010, 02:49 PM | #9 |
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learnin iz hard
teachin iz weak man jobz harderz than lady jobz teachin iz lady jobs if no callouses...iz lady job educatin overrated...they make you takes classes you don't use on the job so dey useless. i have no point to post i looking for threads to post in and this one has stuff bout stuff so i post. |
03-10-2010, 12:41 PM | #10 |
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My sister is on salary and she gets time in lieu.. she works overtime she gets to take time off for it.. I guess in a way as teachers we do too, i.e summer vacation. My husband is a pilot and he has a tonne more time off work than I do. I don't think anyone was saying that only teaching is difficult, but we do take exception when people don't recognize how hard of a job it is. When people run around saying our job is easy I want to ask them if they would like to switch for a week. To me an office job looks easy. ( not saying that it is, just that it LOOKS easy, from the outside)
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