Sony admits utter PSN failure: your personal data has been stolen

[Avatard]

Originally Posted by jtemple

Call BS all you want. I go on a cruise every year. There's cell service there.

Great, now with that info, all I need to have is access to your phone via a trojan, and I can go rip you off while you're on vacation (remember the trojan gave me access, I know your address, or I'm perhaps someone you've befriended online with less-than-honorable intentions).

See how easy it is to "enable" bad shit to happen by simply leaving leaky info lying about?

If someone puts two and two together, perhaps with a geo-tagged image you shared online, you're hosed.

I'm not that stupid, but many are.

[jtemple]

Accessing my phone via a trojan (which isn't happening - I'm not that stupid) will only tell you where my phone has been. Not when. It's not going to tell you when I'm out of town and I simply don't advertise that information except to the person that is watching my house while I'm gone. I have a house sitter anyway, my pets are pretty high maintenance and someone pretty much has to live here while I'm gone.

The info isn't just "lying about". If I encrypt my iPhone backups, you can't get into it on my computer. The trojan thing you mentioned just isn't going to happen to me. I know my way around computers all too well for that to even be a concern.

Again, there's no information in here other than points on a map. There's no date, no time, etc.

It would be easier to just case my house and figure out when I'm gone.

If you break in to my house and don't get mauled by dogs or shot, help yourself. It's only stuff. That's what homeowner's insurance is for.

Now, if you kick the door down while I'm home, that's an entirely different matter.

[Avatard]

If I have to point out a specific hypothetical in order for you to understand that this is too much information, and is being handled too cavalierly, in order for you to grasp that it's a security risk, then you're not a very sharp individual, able to think things through both backwards and forwards for your own protection.

Good luck. Yeah, you're waaaaay too sharp to get a trojan

[anthonyk]

Originally Posted by Tmall

That's your argument? You can't find a link to it, so it doesn't exist?

Huh?

Some people took issue with Apple saying "we are not tracking the whereabouts of your iPhone," since the location data was being saved and being sent to Apple on a regular basis.

Of course the data exists. I'm saying that if the only thing Apple is receiving is the location of cell towers and wifi hotspots in some anonymous manner that can't be linked back to an individual phone, then Apple really isn't tracking my phone.

You wanna argue that collecting the data is a bad idea to begin with? Knock yourselves out. Different strokes for different folks and all that. I don't care too much, but I can see how others might.

And jtemple, I'm pretty sure when this all came out, they showed the database of saved location data has timestamps, too. (It wouldn't be very useful info about currently active coverage if it didn't.)

[jtemple]

"Apple to fix location tracking bug in iOS 4.3.3; due out soon"

http://www.bgr.com/2011/05/02/apple-...-due-out-soon/

[Avatard]

It's a bug? I thought it was a "feature".

[derf]

Originally Posted by Avatard

It's a bug? I thought it was a "feature".

It was a feature, now its a bug because people are angry about it.

Actually they are just gonna rename the folder the location data is saved in, sources close to Apple insists that the folder will be named Cortney Love naked to keep people from actually looking in it. (J/K)

[AquaPython]

another 25 million accounts hacked.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_tec_sony_hacker_attack

[dubbs]

Yup.. changed my CC# because of this.. I hate resetting the card everywhere..