9/11 Conspiracy Nuts?

[OneSickPsycho]

I stop the conspiracy train at the sheer number of people who would need to be involved to pull the majority of the theories off... Controlled demo of this magnitude requires a significant amount of planning and huge amounts of resources, including lots of people. You tellin' me that they paid off all these people? You tellin' me that if they did, nobody can find the money trail? You tellin' me that even if it was the most brilliant plan in the history of plans, and they managed to hide a ridiculously insane money trail, that one of these fuckers wouldn't decide to come forward after spending all their money on flat screens, 24" spinners, and hookers? It's just doesn't pass the sniff test...

[defector]

Originally Posted by Trip

The only conspiracy I can really get behind is at least incompetence or neglect by our government to protect us from these attacks, but I highly doubt they had anything to do with causing them.

Agree 100%, but you only had LIHOP or MIHOP listed.
In my mind it is a bit of LIHOP.

[Trip]

Originally Posted by defector

Agree 100%, but you only had LIHOP or MIHOP listed.
In my mind it is a bit of LIHOP.

yeah I guess it could be a little LIHOP, i should make incompetence a selection though.

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by Trip

yeah I guess it could be a little LIHOP, i should make incompetence a selection though.

yea INCOMP gets my vote.

[101lifts2]

Originally Posted by Trip

The only conspiracy I can really get behind is at least incompetence or neglect by our government to protect us from these attacks, but I highly doubt they had anything to do with causing them.

The whole WTC 7 shit is just stupid. If they really wanted to take out paper and computer trails, there is the delete button and paper shredders. Why risk hard drives and paper being recovered in the debris...

I don't think the government played any part in organizing the 9/11 attacks, rather some people in the CIA knew about it and did not stop it.

How do you explain going into IRAQ when 17 of the 19 highjackers were Saudis? You only need a reason..then you get the funding if you get my drift.

All governments contain large amounts of fraud because they are easy to hide behind combined with the fact that money transfer is always to be had when you have a large population to pool from.

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by 101lifts2

We know the CIA informed the FBI back in 1998 that something of this magnitude was going to happen. Details were very light and the FBI did not act upon it. It was again pushed in 2000 and then in June 2001. I'm pretty sure certain people knew about it, but face the facts. The government is really nothing more than a money transfer scheme. They want money, but need to devise a clever scheme to pull it out of our pockets. What better way then to fuel up terrorism just so you can get a budget to fight it?

Some people in the government have had blood on their hands since 9/11...

Here's the thing, if you want to claim inept handling of the situation, I'm with you. If you want to claim that we spent billions of dollars and thousands of lives to drum up support for a bigger terrorism budget.... yea, sounds like the exact plot of "Long Kiss Goodnight"...

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/164373...t_911_in_1996/

[AquaPython]

I have heard the rebuttals before.

The thing is, every two minutes someone gets on a media outlet or an internet forum and spouts on about how they know, or heard from some expert, about melting points of the steel they used, or how there is some sort of difference between a jumbo jet crash landing and one being aimed at the ground. Opinions keep popping up and they contradict the one prior.
My point is that there are inconsistencies with what we are given as fact, and what we are supposed to take as truth.

If the plane's force, and fuel is responsible for the weakening of the steel. Why did the buildings collapse from the top down? how does that account for the other (what 3?) steel structured buildings in the area such as WTC7 that "burned" down?
interesting that WTC7, contained a new suppository for many of the documents that would have been key to post 9/11 investigations, and that the building was totally evacuated that morning before the events unfolded, save for a handful of people that missed the memo.

[Trip]

Originally Posted by AquaPython

If the plane's force, and fuel is responsible for the weakening of the steel. Why did the buildings collapse from the top down? how does that account for the other (what 3?) steel structured buildings in the area such as WTC7 that "burned" down?
interesting that WTC7, contained a new suppository for many of the documents that would have been key to post 9/11 investigations, and that the building was totally evacuated that morning before the events unfolded, save for a handful of people that missed the memo.

The two main towers collapsed due to force from the upper structure above the crash crushing the lower as it came down. That's easy to see in all the videos from that day.

Several buildings were destroyed by the massive amount of debris that fell on them. Such as the marriot. The first tower took a lot of it out and then the second tower finished the job.

WTC7 took damage which started several fires from the collapses. These fires were fed by diesel fuel lines that ran throughout the building that were damaged during the collapses. (The fuel lines were there for diesel generators for backup power sources for the servers and such) The building was built with only a few main trusses that supported the entire building. The fires weakened them and the building came down after many hours of fuel fed fire.

[Amber Lamps]

you know what? I actually think that the govt faked the whole 911 disaster to cover up and draw attention away from the massive space ship that landed just outside of Area 51 carrying 100,000 aliens at the same time. The aliens need dry conditions and high heat to survive so we are clearing the Middle East for them. In return they are going to give us cures for AIDS, cancer, herpes, etc and an unlimited energy source that we won't unveil until the oil companies have completely sucked this planet dry of crude. They first made contact with Magic Johnson, cured him of AIDS and used him as a spokesman to further their goals.

[Homeslice]

Originally Posted by Amber Lamps

you know what? I actually think that the govt faked the whole 911 disaster to cover up and draw attention away from the massive space ship that landed just outside of Area 51 carrying 100,000 aliens at the same time. The aliens need dry conditions and high heat to survive so we are clearing the Middle East for them. In return they are going to give us cures for AIDS, cancer, herpes, etc and an unlimited energy source that we won't unveil until the oil companies have completely sucked this planet dry of crude. They first made contact with Magic Johnson, cured him of AIDS and used him as a spokesman to further their goals.

Tight. I'm in line with this.