Dyno Day. - Page 6

Mr Lefty · 06-08-2008, 09:22 AM

$12k... some are as high as $14...

I was think'n of putting a deposit on one here... through the exchange sales and picking it up in October 09... (wouldn't start paying or financing till I pick it up)... but too many issues to solve before i do that...

think'n maybe an older Tuono

marko138 · 06-08-2008, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by DLIT

Fuck that. Everybody thinks Buell is the shit because they have high torque numbers. That shit isn't gonna matter when they don't have the hp to carry them into real speeds. The 1125 is WAY better, performance wise than the older Buells and I respect that. But that upper kills me. Doesn't flow with the rest of the bike, which looks cool.

I'm actually a humble guy, but I speak my mind.

What the fuck are real speeds? My XB will do 130. Tell me where the hell you are gonna need to go faster than that? Oh thats right...no where.

DLIT · 06-08-2008, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by marko138

What the fuck are real speeds? My XB will do 130. Tell me where the hell you are gonna need to go faster than that? Oh thats right...no where.

Um...Miller Motorsports Park. The front straight is literally almost 1/2 a mile. But that's the track, street you really don't need it. I need it because I like going 160 on deserted roads in the middle of nowhere and there's plenty out here to do it on.

Cutty72 · 06-08-2008, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DLIT

What an 1125 cost?

MSRP is $11995. Some guys were paying over that... they were dumb.
I got mine for $12000 out the door.

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Originally Posted by marko138

What the fuck are real speeds? My XB will do 130. Tell me where the hell you are gonna need to go faster than that? Oh thats right...no where.

1125 put down 165 on the dyno. So figure 155-160 on the street.

Should find out at BIR, if i have the cojonas. Experienced guys are going into turn one at 180-200... middleweights go in redline 6th gear...

DLIT · 06-08-2008, 02:19 PM

Got a layout of BIR?

Cutty72 · 06-08-2008, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DLIT

Got a layout of BIR?

and I found a youtube vid of the track

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9hFbYmRL8I

marko138 · 06-08-2008, 04:39 PM

The problem is most of you clowns need to check your ego and come out of the clouds and get back to reality. Perhaps realize that you are not and never will be Valentino Rossi.

DLIT · 06-08-2008, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by marko138

The problem is most of you clowns need to check your ego and come out of the clouds and get back to reality. Perhaps realize that you are not and never will be Valentino Rossi.

Problem is, because a guy has more experience, you think he's got an ego.

marko138 · 06-08-2008, 06:20 PM

I don't give a shit about how much experience a guy has. I look out for number 1.

PiZdETS · 06-08-2008, 06:55 PM

All the interviews I've read with Erik Buell stated that he has no immediate plans to go racing. He designs buell's to be great on the road and I haven't met a buell owner who doesn't love the shit out of them. As the designers stated intent was to make a bike that was fun to ride first and foremost as opposed to track dominating; it's an error to start benchracing with buell's in mind for this reason, they arent racing machines.

A lot of sportbikes are good on the track and good on the street but to be really good on the track it seems like there's a point where you start sacrificing street usability in exchange for track prowess.
Really seems like with the 1125R they're going in the direction of track ability and most of the mag reviews I read of it were held at tracks. Just because it can't hang with the jap and Italian makers on track doesn't mean it can't be as fun or more fun than them on track with the use of clever designs and user friendliness. Lap times aint everything!

Honestly though I don't blame Buell for holding off on getting into racing- look at how deep the market is for homolagated track specials, full to the brim of Japanese and Italian makers oozing cash and experience.
Also- to survive in the liter class they would have to undergo the penalty of displacement reduction which would be game ending as they only make 130 hp with the additional 125 cc's over I4 literbikes as is- a deficit of nearly 40 horsepower compared to the newest crop of literbikes. They could possibly get a rule exception as Ducati did in WSBK since they're running fewer cylinders.
Obviously the new engine needs some development in reliability and power to be competitive as the old guard of sportbike makers has been releasing bikes you can beat the shit out of ontrack without much additional maintenance problems for nearly 10 years now.

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PiZdETS ⎷⎛⎝ ⎝⏠⏝⏠⎠ ⎷⎛⎝ Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: ⎷⎛⎝ ⎝⏠⏝⏠⎠ ⎷⎛⎝ Moto: ⎷⎛⎝ ⎝⏠⏝⏠⎠ ⎷⎛⎝ Posts: 990	All the interviews I've read with Erik Buell stated that he has no immediate plans to go racing. He designs buell's to be great on the road and I haven't met a buell owner who doesn't love the shit out of them. As the designers stated intent was to make a bike that was fun to ride first and foremost as opposed to track dominating; it's an error to start benchracing with buell's in mind for this reason, they arent racing machines. A lot of sportbikes are good on the track and good on the street but to be really good on the track it seems like there's a point where you start sacrificing street usability in exchange for track prowess. Really seems like with the 1125R they're going in the direction of track ability and most of the mag reviews I read of it were held at tracks. Just because it can't hang with the jap and Italian makers on track doesn't mean it can't be as fun or more fun than them on track with the use of clever designs and user friendliness. Lap times aint everything! Honestly though I don't blame Buell for holding off on getting into racing- look at how deep the market is for homolagated track specials, full to the brim of Japanese and Italian makers oozing cash and experience. Also- to survive in the liter class they would have to undergo the penalty of displacement reduction which would be game ending as they only make 130 hp with the additional 125 cc's over I4 literbikes as is- a deficit of nearly 40 horsepower compared to the newest crop of literbikes. They could possibly get a rule exception as Ducati did in WSBK since they're running fewer cylinders. Obviously the new engine needs some development in reliability and power to be competitive as the old guard of sportbike makers has been releasing bikes you can beat the shit out of ontrack without much additional maintenance problems for nearly 10 years now. __________________

06-08-2008, 09:22 AM	#51
Mr Lefty TWFix Legend Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Denver CO Moto: 01 BMW F650GS Dakar Posts: 15,677	$12k... some are as high as $14... I was think'n of putting a deposit on one here... through the exchange sales and picking it up in October 09... (wouldn't start paying or financing till I pick it up)... but too many issues to solve before i do that... think'n maybe an older Tuono