Solar, electric cars, batteries, and making money without trying.

[Avatard]

Originally Posted by 101lifts2

Fuck those chicks are nice.

Same chick. Man, you're fucking observant. Nothing gets by you, eh?

[LeeNetworX]

This is all you need.

[goof2]

Originally Posted by LeeNetworX

This is all you need.

[Trip]

Originally Posted by LeeNetworX

This is all you need.

I've actually seen a technician do that. It was a 200ft cord that he managed to run a good deal distance to where he needed it and back to plug it into itself. It was hilarious.

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by Trip

I've actually seen a technician do that. It was a 200ft cord that he managed to run a good deal distance to where he needed it and back to plug it into itself. It was hilarious.

We used to routinely have people plug both ethernet cables from a IP phone into the wall jacks; how to take an entire network stack down in 10 seconds, flat.

[pauldun170]

Originally Posted by LeeNetworX

This is all you need.

POWER!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Q2OlqsknXI

[LeeNetworX]

Originally Posted by pauldun170

POWER!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Q2OlqsknXI

Old Spice guy FTW

[goof2]

Out of curiosity I ran some numbers on this.

There are a number of assumptions for this. I may have forgotten a few so most of them are listed below.
1) You can sell the power back whenever you want.
2) When they buy it back the power company pays you what they are charging at that time.
3) Peak cost for electricity is double off-peak cost.
4) Your normal usage before charging the batteries is 70% peak/30% off-peak.
5) You are using car batteries with a full charge of 100 Amp hours.
6) Those car batteries are 80% efficient (put in 1 unit and .8 of a unit comes out).
7) Your monthly electricity requirement before the batteries is 1000 kilowatt hours (about average)
8)There are no extra taxes or fees in your electricity bill, only the electricity itself.
9) You pay nothing for the batteries, nothing for the wiring, and nothing to maintain the system.

All that being said you would need around 700 batteries in your system just to be able to make enough money to pay for your normal electric bill. Good luck.

[caveman]

Originally Posted by goof2

Out of curiosity I ran some numbers on this.

There are a number of assumptions for this. I may have forgotten a few so most of them are listed below.
1) You can sell the power back whenever you want.
2) When they buy it back the power company pays you what they are charging at that time.
3) Peak cost for electricity is double off-peak cost.
4) Your normal usage before charging the batteries is 70% peak/30% off-peak.
5) You are using car batteries with a full charge of 100 Amp hours.
6) Those car batteries are 80% efficient (put in 1 unit and .8 of a unit comes out).
7) Your monthly electricity requirement before the batteries is 1000 kilowatt hours (about average)
8)There are no extra taxes or fees in your electricity bill, only the electricity itself.
9) You pay nothing for the batteries, nothing for the wiring, and nothing to maintain the system.

All that being said you would need around 700 batteries in your system just to be able to make enough money to pay for your normal electric bill. Good luck.

Just curious where did you get your numbers from? and where did you get the info for #2? I am only asking because there is no FACKING way a big corporation is gonna pay some retard that has 700 batteries wired to the grid making it more unstable than it already is when they can tell that whack job to take a flying leap off a short pier and disconnect them for possibly causing a grid instability that threatens the rest of said grid.

I work for a power company and I have looked into this stuff and there is no way in hell they would knowingly allow you let alone pay you for your power.

[goof2]

Originally Posted by caveman

Just curious where did you get your numbers from? and where did you get the info for #2? I am only asking because there is no FACKING way a big corporation is gonna pay some retard that has 700 batteries wired to the grid making it more unstable than it already is when they can tell that whack job to take a flying leap off a short pier and disconnect them for possibly causing a grid instability that threatens the rest of said grid.

I work for a power company and I have looked into this stuff and there is no way in hell they would knowingly allow you let alone pay you for your power.

Some of the assumptions are based on a very little bit of research on google. As an example one website said a typical car battery stores around 100 amp hours so I used that number. Some of the assumptions aren't based on fact at all. Specifically numbers 1, 2, 8, and 9 on my list are there as a way to keep the calculations simple. Wherever I decided to do this I made it as favorable as possible for the consumer just to see what kind of number it gave.

Realistically numbers 1 and 2 are the smaller assumptions. Number 8 is pure fantasy and number 9 may as well be. If someone actually had to pay for them it would run around $35,000 just for the batteries (at $50 per). I didn't even consider ancillary issues like where the hell do you safely store 14 tons of batteries (figuring 40lbs each) primarily made of lead and acid that also happens to vent a flammable gas (hydrogen).