Please.....beat your kids.

[racedoll]

I'm amazed at the number of people I hear say that kids are out of control, the government is out of control, etc. but nothing ever seems to get done. I would think that if everything feels the same way, then something would change, but it never does.

Guess this is one reason I don't have (or really want) kids. If I did, they'd get their ass spanked if they needed it.

[Kaneman]

Yea, once of my Facebook "friends" is extremely anti spanking. She says I'm going to turn my son into a serial killer. Then at the same time she's always posting up how putting her kids to bed is always so crazy at her house, or that she tells her kids to do something and they say "ummmm, how bout NO", different stuff like that. Blows my mind.

I tell my son to go to bed and he asks me to read him a story, I do, then he smiles and goes to sleep. No protest. And I can't even imagine him telling me no.

[tached1000rr]

All I can say is I was spanked at an early age by grandparents, mother and my father, I can remember every one I received from my father and grandfather and I can reflect and say yep I had it coming. Was it effective? I think so I've gone on to be a good citizen, neighbor, father etc... Would I be who I am today if I was not spanked?

My kids were spanked at young ages by me or my wife, was it effective I think so. My oldest 18 just entered her freshman year of college to study pharmacy and my other two have been very successful and we receive compliments all the time on how well rounded and behaved our children are.
It's been many years since they have been spanked.

What is important, is being consistent using whatever method you do use and not making statements/demands that you are not following up with.

[Homeslice]

Originally Posted by pauldun170

Amazing that my kids are so well behaved...yet have never been hit.
Just Amazing

Notice nobody has responded to this post, or asked you for more info about your parenting methods. Apparently they just want to stick with their preconceived view.

[Kaneman]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

Notice nobody has responded to this post, or asked you for more info about your parenting methods. Apparently they just want to stick with their preconceived view.

I'll respond to it. I've already said early on in this thread that I didn't believe all kids needed to be spanked. I also know "well-behaved" is also about perception. Spankings just happen to be my preferred method for dealing with disobedience, of which there is very, very little of at my house from my kids or my dogs. Goddamn wife is a different story though...

What there is a lot of, however, is fun, laughs, exercise, reading, wrestling, Tae Kwon Do and so on....which pretty much negates the need to ever give any spankings. In fact, I think its been months now since I had to give the boy any pops. Ahhh...just thinking about it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy....maybe I need to go shine my belt up a lil' =P

You may not like corporal punishment, but you'd damn sure appreciate how my kid acts at the restaurant, at the movies, at the store and so on.

[tached1000rr]

It's funny, ok not really, when you see lil Johnny in front of you at the check out he decides he wants that pack of m&ms and mom/dad says no Johnny put that back, and Johnny rears back and hit them, I'm sitting there like yep this is a kid that's going to be bigger than mom/dad at some point and ask for the keys to car, when he hears no Johnny, mom/dad is getting knocked the fuck out or he's just gonna take it anyway.

As I've said, to each their own, what works for you do it.

[Homeslice]

Originally Posted by Kaneman

I'll respond to it. I've already said early on in this thread that I didn't believe all kids needed to be spanked. I also know "well-behaved" is also about perception. Spankings just happen to be my preferred method for dealing with disobedience, of which there is very, very little of at my house from my kids or my dogs. Goddamn wife is a different story though...

What there is a lot of, however, is fun, laughs, exercise, reading, wrestling, Tae Kwon Do and so on....which pretty much negates the need to ever give any spankings. In fact, I think its been months now since I had to give the boy any pops. Ahhh...just thinking about it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy....maybe I need to go shine my belt up a lil' =P

You may not like corporal punishment, but you'd damn sure appreciate how my kid acts at the restaurant, at the movies, at the store and so on.

I respect this post and it sounds like you have a good relationship w/your kids. All I'm saying is that spanking isn't enough. I was spanked plenty, but rarely was I ever explained why the rule I broke was important. In fact it seemed as though the only reason I was getting spanked was because my dad felt offended that someone would dare to break his trivial rules. As a kid you need to know why something is important, otherwise you don't learn. You also need to be given the freedom to make mistakes and take responsibility for them.

And most importantly, there needs to be love in the house, otherwise why would any kid be motivated to follow their parents' example.

IMO if a parent expresses their love to a kid often, educates them instead of withholding info, and allows them to take responsibility once in awhile, then the need for physical discipline will decrease greatly.

[azoomm]

So then, if you choose to be human and communicate with your childen why not choose a less barbaric method of punishment? As humans we have choices and the ability to be cognative creatures... I vote to teach about effective choices rather than the simple concept of fight or flight.

Originally Posted by Homeslice

I respect this post and it sounds like you have a good relationship w/your kids. All I'm saying is that spanking isn't enough. I was spanked plenty, but rarely was I ever explained why the rule I broke was important. In fact it seemed as though the only reason I was getting spanked was because my dad felt offended that someone would dare to break his trivial rules. As a kid you need to know why something is important, otherwise you don't learn. You also need to be given the freedom to make mistakes and take responsibility for them.

And most importantly, there needs to be love in the house, otherwise why would any kid be motivated to follow their parents' example.

IMO if a parent expresses their love to a kid often, educates them instead of withholding info, and allows them to take responsibility once in awhile, then the need for physical discipline will decrease greatly.

[Kaneman]

Originally Posted by azoomm

So then, if you choose to be human and communicate with your childen why not choose a less barbaric method of punishment? As humans we have choices and the ability to be cognative creatures... I vote to teach about effective choices rather than the simple concept of fight or flight.

Its quick, simple and gets the point across. I'm not anti-violence.

You're also assuming all or even most humans are capable of learning or accepting these effective alternatives to spanking and that's just not true. However, we're all still primitive enough to understand a quick, decisive and objective slap...and we understand it immediately. In a world, or a country, where there is very little effective discipline going around I'd simply be happy to see more spanking.

Furthermore, I see little reason to chose against spanking. I'll never buy that spanking causes some sort of lasting emotional damage when administered as discipline and not abuse.

[Amorok]

It's a hard world out there. If kids don't realize there are consequences to their actions then they'll end up getting really hurt later on in life. I utilize corporal punishment with my son, and I make sure he knows why. Where my wife has to repeat herself and yell, I tell the boy once, maybe twice. I'm teaching him that there are consequences to his actions, right now it's a sore butt, and hopefully that sore butt prevents a broken nose later in life when he chooses not to mouth off to the wrong person. You raise your kids how you want, but I'm raising mine not to fuck about and then beg me for help every time something goes wrong.