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Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Las Vegas, NV
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I give Squids a bad name
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Fly Over State
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I'm also not taking the word of someone who "thinks" she isn't paying for her healthcare other than a little more in taxes without even considering that someone else out there who she has never met and has nothing to do with, paid the other $30,000 of her surgery. And that person only gave that money up becuase the government used it's policing power which is backed up by men/women with guns to take that money. Wether government run healthcare would increase our lifespan by 30 years or not is irrelevant. It is a product/service that a citizen is forced to purchase by the government and it also involves taking someone else's money away too which is stealing. It's a moral issue more than anything.
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I give Squids a bad name
Join Date: Mar 2008
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Now here is a question. Why can't the people who want to pay higher taxes so we can get healthcare just set up a seperate box on their tax forms that says "I want more money taken out for the healthcare of others". That way it's strictly voluntary and we can all get healthcare!
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Join Date: Nov 2009
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I am thoroughly enjoying this thread.. thanks to everyone for their responses!
My number of $4000 for a child was from my best friend who is 21 weeks pregnant in Texas, both her and her husband are teachers for the same school district in Houston. That is the number that they were quoted from their doc/hospital. It is not just the private person who pays taxes, corporations etc pay tax too some of that gets pooled into healthcare. I have experienced both systems, and although I don't think the U.S. system is terrible, I like the idea of a state taking care of its citizens a bit better, after all they are the ones who make the country great are they not? Is it not in their best interest to keep their people healthy? You are already paying for the healthcare of those on welfare. As far as dental/orthodontic, my provincial healthcare doesn't cover it, but the additional insurance we get through work does, as well as vision, chiropractic, massage, orthopedics, and a who crap of other stuff, all paid for 100% by my school board. Our prescription coverage is also not covered by provincial healthcare, but if you don't have prescription coverage you can still afford medication. The biggest problem I have seen with out healthcare up here is that if you are waiting for elective tests such as an mri on your knee from a sports injury, you are on the bottom of the list and it can take a while to get in for it. They are thinking of creating a two tier system where you can either wait and the province will cover it, or get in right away to a private clinic and pay for it out of your own pocket. There is a lot of resistance to a two tier system though, we see it as a slippery slope. Each provinces health care is run by that province although healthcare is guaranteed by the country, so it does vary province to province. Until this January we actually paid for health care premiums, mind you they were only about $44 a person a month ( or something like that) |
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For Science. You Monster.
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Canada
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If I get married and/or have kids, they are also covered under this policy, at, again, no charge to me. Got anymore?
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Join Date: Mar 2008
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My GF is in school to be a physical therapist. It is an 8 year course but she will make six figures right out of school. In fact, she already has a position lined up. Would she still go to college for 8 years if the gov't decides that PTs are only allowed to make $50,000 per year? I understand that we pay for medical for welfare recipients, do the rest of us want to also have that level of medical care? ![]() |
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For Science. You Monster.
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Canada
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Unless you condsider 2-300k not that well for a doctor. You guys can pretend our HC system is horrible if you want. The rest of us who live with it, know better. And i've never been turned away or made wait any ridiculous time for any procedure. Its pretty much a myth that you people use to villify and validate your silly opinions with.
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gun totin redneck
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: South West New Hampshire
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I also think it a bit overly simplistic to imply that Canadian Health Care Professinal are less motivated because of income. I have worked with at least a hundred through the years, and thousands here in the states Damm few are are doing it for the money. I will say that in some cases the choices of Canadian Health Care Professional are limited by the single payer system they are working in. Which is not to say your insurer doesn't limit some Choices as well. The difference here in the states is that I can simply change primary insurer. I couldn't do that in Canada I still had to pay for my neighbors care.
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Canyon Carver
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
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He had zero complications following his stint with CA for the 3rd time here in my little Canadian hospital. I'd say 99.9% of people don't go into the medical field for the money. There are far better ways to make more money and actually have a life. And the best and the brightest go into fields that suit them - from palliative care to cardiac surgery - not into which that pay more... It's amazing what little first hand knowledge people have of our system and think it's inferior. Any American I've ever taken care of has been nothing but impressed with the care they received. |
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