Jett Travolta

[Dave]

Originally Posted by Gas Man

For what it is worth kawasaki's is a real thing. It is generally a disease that comes over infants. However, when I was 8 years old on Thanksgiving day, I came down with it and couldn't walk that morning. Was rushed to Motts Childrens hospital, which is a part of U of M medical in Ann Arbor. One of the leading childrens hospitals in the country. At the time they didn't know what it was. In the weeks and months following, they also discovered that I had developed MVP (Mitral Valve Prolapse) as a side effect to it. I had to go like 4 times a year for a LONG time to get echo's and stress tests. I have now also been diagnosed by a Henry Ford specialist with Cadio Hyper Sensativity (lamons term).

Its all very real.. luckily my MVP was never bad enough to warrent any medication or vlv repairs/transplants.

that why you sold the ten? relapse?

[Mr Lefty]

Originally Posted by Dave

that why you sold the ten? relapse?

it was a 9...

[Dave]

eh thats wierd i remembered it being a ten *scratches head

[Gas Man]

Originally Posted by Trip

Did you ever have seizures with it?

Nope.

And no, it had nothing to do with my bike change

[Trip]

Originally Posted by Gas Man

Nope.

That's why I was making fun of it, because they are making up symptoms to go along with this disease he didn't have and doing it poorly because they don't want to admit what he really had because of Scientology.

[Gas Man]

That is cause his dad is an asshat!

[lauralynne]

Originally Posted by Trip

Cause we can and cause I think there might be a legal case here if the son had a medical condition that the father chose to neglect because of cultish beliefs.

Because his beliefs don't align with the majority there's a legal case? His son was in no way neglected, if he refused treatment there's NO LAW against that.
If my child had cancer and I refused chemo and brought them home to die, it's my right to do that. Is it different than what most people would do? Yes. Is it wrong because of that? No.

[Mr Lefty]

Originally Posted by lauralynne

Because his beliefs don't align with the majority there's a legal case? His son was in no way neglected, if he refused treatment there's NO LAW against that.
If my child had cancer and I refused chemo and brought them home to die, it's my right to do that. Is it different than what most people would do? Yes. Is it wrong because of that? No.

in my opinion YES it is.


in Trip's opinion... it is in Jett's case.

[2up]

I had a niece who had a very rare syndrome which was un or misdiagnosed for 9 years. They didn't have it right for a long time because she had seizures and most kids (high mortality rate with this syndrome) don't have them. Right before her 11th birthday she had a seizure that ultimately took her life.

My sister agreed to extraordinary medical measures to help keep her daughter going for those 11 years. I don't really want to go into the details but I don't know that I could or would have allowed all the things my sister allowed. I don't think reasons matter. What I mean is, none of us know the truth about this other than his son died. We don't know what his son's quality of life was. Maybe his choices were for religious reasons but I personally think "we" sometimes play "God" too much where medical care is concerned and sustain lives when maybe we shouldn't. Was he being negligent or humane? I don't know.

[Mr Lefty]

Originally Posted by 2up

I had a niece who had a very rare syndrome which was un or misdiagnosed for 9 years. They didn't have it right for a long time because she had seizures and most kids (high mortality rate with this syndrome) don't have them. Right before her 11th birthday she had a seizure that ultimately took her life.

My sister agreed to extraordinary medical measures to help keep her daughter going for those 11 years. I don't really want to go into the details but I don't know that I could or would have allowed all the things my sister allowed. I don't think reasons matter. What I mean is, none of us know the truth about this other than his son died. We don't know what his son's quality of life was. Maybe his choices were for religious reasons but I personally think "we" sometimes play "God" too much where medical care is concerned and sustain lives when maybe we shouldn't. Was he being negligent or humane? I don't know.

if the person has the will to live... then do everything you can... sustain'n lives where the person has given up is pointless... in the case of people you can't determine their wishes... it's up to the family... I can't knock them for wanting to go to the ends of the earth to extend the life of their loved one... sometimes... they just can't bring themselves to make the CHOICE to give up. as was the case with my mother and her mother. My grandma had cancer and was on her deathbed... had been on a resparator for months... and slipped into a coma. the cancer spread through out her body and there was no way she was coming back. but my mother couldn't make the CHOICE to end her life. that was impossible for her.