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Old 04-01-2010, 11:33 AM   #41
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Well back in the day we managed to get killed on F2s and Katanas, all pushing 80hp with 100 more pounds than some of these new fangled croth missles, har har har...
Haven't 600's and Cruisers been the key types for on the road whoopsies? (as per data )
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Old 04-01-2010, 11:35 AM   #42
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The 2 stroke sleds of today are pretty good emissions wise. Plus they get just as good of gas mileage according to my snow snowmobiling friends.
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Old 04-01-2010, 12:27 PM   #43
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I can't imagine manufacturers will take the time and spend the money to modify existing bikes solely for France. It isn't like there is a thriving French motorcycle industry willing to cater to that individual country either. If the EU doesn't implement the ban as well I hope the French enjoy getting virtually no sportbikes.

If the EU goes along I suspect they will see a number of 100hp bikes where the most effective performance modification will be done with wire-cutters. I don't know why Germany (BMW) or Italy (Duc, MV) would want to get involved in it.
Norway has had a law in place like this for a while now, and the manufacturers follow it. If they want to sell bikes in those countries, they will comply. And France is a huge motorcycle market.

Remember, it was France that was able to convince the big 4 to restrict their bikes to 300km/h.
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Old 04-01-2010, 12:35 PM   #44
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The 2 stroke sleds of today are pretty good emissions wise. Plus they get just as good of gas mileage according to my snow snowmobiling friends.
arent those considered off road only?
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Old 04-01-2010, 12:38 PM   #45
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Norway has had a law in place like this for a while now, and the manufacturers follow it. If they want to sell bikes in those countries, they will comply. And France is a huge motorcycle market.

Remember, it was France that was able to convince the big 4 to restrict their bikes to 300km/h.
From what I understand that was the EU, not just France.
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Old 04-01-2010, 02:39 PM   #46
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Haven't 600's and Cruisers been the key types for on the road whoopsies? (as per data )
Actually I think I member in the Hurt report it was big cc cruiser bikes like 1200 Twins that crashed to most. maybe France should limit torque or weight?
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Old 04-01-2010, 02:40 PM   #47
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From what I understand that was the EU, not just France.
Yup, gang tackle. But you gotta think this was a speed limiter not a hp limiter. Public roads might be safe to exhibit high hp but not insanely high speeds.
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Old 04-01-2010, 02:54 PM   #48
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i ride an sv 650 i dont care what they do over there i dont have that many ponies anyway lol
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Old 04-01-2010, 08:31 PM   #49
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Yup, gang tackle. But you gotta think this was a speed limiter not a hp limiter. Public roads might be safe to exhibit high hp but not insanely high speeds.
ya know ghost rider is french...
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maybe France should limit torque or weight?
Maybe they should limit man-purses and butterfat.
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