When to slow down - Page 5

Rider · 05-13-2009, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Tmall

And sportbike riders are buying what if its not an image?

The majority of us are out classed by ninja 500s. Obviously nobody needs more than that. They must be buying an image..

I don't think buying a GSXR 750 would be considered an "image". It's a niche market for people who want middle weight handling with liter bike performance. What image would be portrayed by that other than a performance minded individual. HD riders (for the most part) are going for the "tough guy" image. No gear, big gut, over compensation for their tiny dick, more money than brains type individual.

Frostz28 · 05-13-2009, 03:00 PM

well Ive ridden all diffrent types of bikes including HDs and their jap clones. In my opinion Harleys are not all they are cracked up to be. all the HDs Ive ridden have been uncomfortable and clunky (for lack of a better word) My dad is a big Vulcan fan and I have to say Id take a Vulcan 1500 over any HD Ive ever ridden. As far as when to slow down.... Ive kinda been struggling with that myself, but for diffrent reasons. all my friends sold their bikes. Some of them bought track bikes and just ride on the track. Others just flat don't have a bike anymore. I can't bring myself to give up riding on the street but I have been seriously considering trading in the GSXR on a cruiser or sport tourer and grabbing a track bike for going to the track and getting my speed fix.

Trip · 05-13-2009, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Tmall

Rice fanboy or Harley fanboy? What's the diff?

As for being a fanboy, I'm far from it. I was a closed minded Harley hater like the rest of you up until a few years back. Then I stopped listening to what others said and tried them. And after that, I stand 100% behind what I said.

Just because you and people like to do not like something doesn't mean its garbage and your opinion isn't the only one that counts.

You make it seem as though Harley riders are brainwashed sheep, yet the average sportbike rider just buys whatever has the best spec sheet in most cases.

and its not like the Harley rider can't afford the Jap clone. They just choose not to buy it..

The difference is I am not a fanboy of either. I am in process of selling my reliable Honda for a reliable adv tourer that isn't a rice bike. I am getting a BMW (omg it's not a rice bike) because that's what they are known for in the field I am choosing to ride in, just like the Honda was reliable in sportbikes.

BTW, it's not people like us who say it. Harley's are known worldwide for their mechanical issues, just as they are as well known worldwide for their image which brings them the business in the face of their problems.

You are a fanboy, you refuse to look at overwhelming evidence widely available anywhere about reliability and quality control of the japs vs harleys. Sure any harley guy can buy a much cheaper jap bike, we all understand how money works, but thanks for pointing that out.... We also understand how marketing and image works, which you seem to be lacking in knowledge.

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Originally Posted by Tmall

And sportbike riders are buying what if its not an image?

The majority of us are out classed by ninja 500s. Obviously nobody needs more than that. They must be buying an image..

The ninja 500s are seriously lacking in braking and suspension for anyone who wants to track it. If you are putting around town is one thing, but if you are wanting to take it to the track, you would need to invest a lot more in performance parts than it would cost to get stock 600 which is already well setup for that use.

shmike · 05-13-2009, 03:01 PM

Buying a Harley is buying an image.

Anyone who disputes that is unwilling to admit the truth.

Buying a modern Harley is buying a quality bike.

Anyone who disputes that is: still living in the AMF days or hasn't ridden a modern HD or is just reiterating what they have heard at the local Jap shop/hangout/sportbike night.

Tmall · 05-13-2009, 03:38 PM

you're a fanboy and you're buying an image...

You guys crack me up.

Porkchop · 05-13-2009, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Tmall

You can sit here all day and spew anti Harley propoganda. Those of us who notice the diddrence between rc cola and coke like to pay a bit more for better quality.

HEY..... i like RC......

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Originally Posted by Trip

I love harley fanboys. Harley isn't quality, it's a name brand that people want. The engineering and quality control of those machines are marginal at best. The engineering and quality control of the rice machines are well above anything harley has nowadays.

Exactly, buying the name.... This country is an ipod/redbull/HD nation.... just buing the name on the first thing you think of. And honestly, all three of them are crap. And I refuse to buy any of them.

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Originally Posted by Tmall

yet the average sportbike rider just buys whatever has the best spec sheet in most cases.

Not necissarily.... maybe trackies yes. But for the average street rider the individual buys on ergonomics that suits them best and looks.

I mean when i was looking at new bikes last year, the honda had won basically every comparo for the past 2 years, but Hondas never fit me well and i hate the looks of the newest gen 600RR. And while it may have been back of pack sixx's zx-6r fit me the best....

Trip · 05-13-2009, 05:02 PM

Barqs red creme soda ftmfw

Particle Man · 05-13-2009, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Trip

Barqs red creme soda ftmfw

I remember when Nehi was available in glass botles and came in wooden crates of 12

Amber Lamps · 05-13-2009, 05:36 PM

Town Club FTW!

Porkchop · 05-13-2009, 05:48 PM

Ummmm.... Tigger.....

Did someone use the powers that be on you or what? Cause I know that's not your doing.....

05-13-2009, 03:00 PM	#2
Frostz28 Redneck Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Dixon, IL Moto: 2005 GSXR 750 Posts: 138	well Ive ridden all diffrent types of bikes including HDs and their jap clones. In my opinion Harleys are not all they are cracked up to be. all the HDs Ive ridden have been uncomfortable and clunky (for lack of a better word) My dad is a big Vulcan fan and I have to say Id take a Vulcan 1500 over any HD Ive ever ridden. As far as when to slow down.... Ive kinda been struggling with that myself, but for diffrent reasons. all my friends sold their bikes. Some of them bought track bikes and just ride on the track. Others just flat don't have a bike anymore. I can't bring myself to give up riding on the street but I have been seriously considering trading in the GSXR on a cruiser or sport tourer and grabbing a track bike for going to the track and getting my speed fix. __________________ "I refuse to tip toe carefully through life, simply to arrive safely at death" "Guys like me drink to many beers on Friday after work, our best blue jeans have skoal rings, we wear our boots to church"

05-13-2009, 05:48 PM	#10
Porkchop 125GP Champion Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Worthington, OH Moto: Empty Garage Posts: 3,418	Ummmm.... Tigger..... Did someone use the powers that be on you or what? Cause I know that's not your doing..... __________________ *Coming soon? 2010 Ducati Monster 696 - Sold 1984 Honda VF500F - Sold 1999 Yamaha R6 - Sold

05-13-2009, 03:01 PM	#4
shmike Follower Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 5,549	Buying a Harley is buying an image. Anyone who disputes that is unwilling to admit the truth. Buying a modern Harley is buying a quality bike. Anyone who disputes that is: still living in the AMF days or hasn't ridden a modern HD or is just reiterating what they have heard at the local Jap shop/hangout/sportbike night.

05-13-2009, 03:38 PM	#5
Tmall Aspiring Rapper Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Halifax, NS Moto: '12 CB1000R Posts: 3,569	you're a fanboy and you're buying an image... You guys crack me up.

05-13-2009, 05:02 PM	#7
Trip Hold mah beer! Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: 80 Miles South of Moto Heaven Moto: 08 R1200GS Posts: 23,268	Barqs red creme soda ftmfw

05-13-2009, 05:36 PM	#9
Amber Lamps Moto GP Star Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 14,556	Town Club FTW!