Derf and Dave

[derf]

Turned out good, 2 of the 3 tix were dropped (reckless and no insurance), and the 3rd was reduced to careless driving. The officer didn't show up and the judge wanted me to come back again in 3 weeks, but then he offered me to go and talk to the prosecutor again so I did and he gave me the offer above.

The careless was $259, plus $250 surcharge, plus $30 court fees, $539 total. Its still less than what dave paid between 5 mph over, court fees, lawyer, and impound fee. He was close tot he $1k mark, I am closer to $650 total.

And the big one, no points, and I keep my liscense.

And as an added bonus someone bought me a free coffee this morning from wawa, and I was at the parking lot early enough to not have to pay for parking

[Amber Lamps]

Originally Posted by derf

Turned out good, 2 of the 3 tix were dropped (reckless and no insurance), and the 3rd was reduced to careless driving. The officer didn't show up and the judge wanted me to come back again in 3 weeks, but then he offered me to go and talk to the prosecutor again so I did and he gave me the offer above.

The careless was $259, plus $250 surcharge, plus $30 court fees, $539 total. Its still less than what dave paid between 5 mph over, court fees, lawyer, and impound fee. He was close tot he $1k mark, I am closer to $650 total.

And the big one, no points, and I keep my liscense.

Um careless doesn't carry points there? It's 3 pts in Michigan.

[derf]

Originally Posted by TIGGER

Um careless doesn't carry points there? It's 3 pts in Michigan.

Reckless has points careless does not

[zuuk750]

Originally Posted by derf

Reckless has points careless does not

wrong, careless is 2, reckless is 5- doing the surcharge bit and having the judge reduce it to 0 points is called an unsafe- you have two of those to use.

sorry scooter shoulda read your post first.

cant leave this thread without leaving my opinion:

being LEO, seems as though this guy definately felt like lumber dumping you both. ( I know this is way late, but it is also late ATM, and I'm bored and need to up post count) In doing so he know something would get dropped in court, so make it look like hes out there really enforcing motor vehicle law.

NOW, on to the part that really had me thinking this whole time- the radar issue. In a town I work in I have a large section of 206-4 lane highway. a radar will pick up anything metal that is moving. This includes billboards, and large road signs. (intro to crash course on radar). a radar unit will also give things such as ghost reads, these are hard to explain but in a series of vehicles traveling 55-60mph you will get a blip of 130+, for example, when really noone is really traveling this speed (unless its scooter resorting to his squidly ways). this is caused by reflection, and a bunch of other goofy shit.

to even be able to LOCK on a motorcycle, being that they are so narrow and have significantly less metal than any other vehicle on the road, is very difficult with the exception of a goldwing maybe. at max a radar can read two speeds at once, for there are 2 windows (a regular incoming speed window and a FAST box which is a vehicle that is traveling faster than any other object around it. when a radar unit is activated, it will read whatever speed of the object it is pointing at, so speeds jump around a couple times a second. my guess is that if you two were traveling next to eachother, it is very possible that the unit gathered only one speed. now in this gathering of the one speed, it is also very possible that the "ghost" phenomena that i stated above came into play, where the radar mistakes the object and adds the speed.

seems like a very inexperienced radar operator wrote you guys. I have wrote many speeding tickets, and not lost a single one in court.

end: im glad things worked out for you guys.

[karl_1052]

Originally Posted by TIGGER

Um careless doesn't carry points there? It's 3 pts in Michigan.

Weird.

Careless here carries 6 points.
We don't have wreckless here anymore.

[zer0t]

Good deal--I am glad it worked out.

[marko138]

Good luck man.

[Dave]

good luck bro!

[derf]

As luck would have it, luck was on my side! I walked into court, and presented my case to the judge, the other lawyer tried to get my pictures thrown out because they were blurry (damn cell phone pictures!!!) but only was able to get 2 thrown out. Then the judge decided in my favor in the amount of $1500. So all in all I am happy. She would have given me more, but the printout from KBB showed value at 4500 for it, being 10 years old. So she could only justify the $1500

[Flexin]

Originally Posted by derf

As luck would have it, luck was on my side! I walked into court, and presented my case to the judge, the other lawyer tried to get my pictures thrown out because they were blurry (damn cell phone pictures!!!) but only was able to get 2 thrown out. Then the judge decided in my favor in the amount of $1500. So all in all I am happy.

Congrats.

James