Awesoime!!! Engine isn't stuck - Page 5

Homeslice · 03-26-2012, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by pauldun170

On the ZX-11?
The tip over sensor is the riders ankle, the back up being the shoulder.
Tip over sensors are for fancy bikes with "lectronic ciruit mobbies"
To reset the sensor, you simply placed the bike back on two wheels

On a couple of my bikes, you had to take off the seat and reset the switch manually.

Papa_Complex · 03-26-2012, 08:43 AM

If the main fuse is good, and you've got voltage at the starter relay input terminals, then you've got to look at the out voltage output of the starter relay and the headlight relay. If the starter relay is toast, then you won't get any power to the reg/rec, headlight relay, anything. Also look for splices in that line. If you see any don't mess around; just redo them.

askmrjesus · 03-26-2012, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

If the main fuse is good, and you've got voltage at the starter relay input terminals, then you've got to look at the out voltage output of the starter relay and the headlight relay. If the starter relay is toast, then you won't get any power to the reg/rec, headlight relay, anything. Also look for splices in that line. If you see any don't mess around; just redo them.

I believe Paul said he replaced the starter relay, so the next likely candidates are the starter button, corroded starter motor connections, or, as you said, a wiring fault in the harness.

Recheck the wiring harness for dodgy connections, (pull every single connector apart and clean them) then look for any spots that appear as if they could have been pinched by the seat, tank, triple trees, or over tightened zip-ties (common problem areas).

Side stand switches come in two basic varieties. Some will prevent the bike from starting, some will kill the motor as soon as you put it in gear. Either way, disconnect that stupid shit. Usually, all you have to do is bridge the two switch wires together.

JC

goof2 · 03-31-2012, 02:31 PM

Did you charge the battery at all before you put it in?

You can hook the old battery back up and see if it does the same thing (nothing and voltage dropping to zero) or you can connect jumper cables off a car (with the car off) to your new battery and see if the lights etc. come on. If the same thing happens it may be a short in your ignition. If it acts normally the battery may have been shipped without a charge or it is a bad battery.

pauldun170 · 03-31-2012, 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goof2

Did you charge the battery at all before you put it in?

You can hook the old battery back up and see if it does the same thing (nothing and voltage dropping to zero) or you can connect jumper cables off a car (with the car off) to your new battery and see if the lights etc. come on. If the same thing happens it may be a short in your ignition. If it acts normally the battery may have been shipped without a charge or it is a bad battery.

Great success in wierd crappy way.

Pull car up...take note that my wife is a slob when it comes to the car.
Hook up Jumper cables to car
Connect Positive to MC battery terminal and negative to frame.
Nada
Connect negative to Negative and say screw it to all this business

It was like Christmas. The lights shining nice and bright.
Hit the starter button...nada.
Oh well...cursed two times followed by a "2 steps back...one step forward.
hit start button again after doing something I cant rememebr
Kawer-Kawer-Kawer-Kawer-Kawer-

FUCKER IS TURNING OVER!!

But wait...I took my hand off the starter button.

Kawer-Kawer-Kawer-Kawer-Kawer-

Why is this fucker still trying to start?

Kawer-Kawer-Kawer-Kawer-Kawer-

(turns key to off)

Kawer-Kawer-Kawer-Kawer-Kawer-

(removes key from ignition)

Kawer-Kawer-Kawer-Kawer-Kawer-

Yanks off jumper cables.

(silence)

Come back a minute later to see if it will start again.

As soon as I connect the negative battery to the frame

Kawer-Kawer-Kawer-Kawer-Kawer!!!!

I'm I to assume that the battery I received is defective?

(thanks for the tip goof2)

Papa_Complex · 03-31-2012, 02:41 PM

Sounds like a dead short or, and this will sound stupid, a battery that has been connected backwards. Or a fried Reg/Rec. Or a battery that has almost zero charge (no current equals no voltage, when you turn the key; high resistance in the voltmeter means you read voltage, even with almost no charge).

Have you tried putting the old battery back in? I've lost track of what you've tried and what you haven't. Maybe a recap?

Homeslice · 03-31-2012, 02:50 PM

Honda regulator/rectifiers are known to be crap, it's affected CBR's for the last 10-12 years, although supposedly not as bad these days.

Papa_Complex · 03-31-2012, 03:40 PM

Bad new battery, bad ignition switch, and/or bad starter switch.

defector · 03-31-2012, 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

bad starter switch.

I think that's your winner. (As far as the constant cranking issue).

Papa_Complex · 03-31-2012, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by defector

I think that's your winner. (As far as the constant cranking issue).

I think that it's more than just that, based on the fact that it cranked even after the key was yanked. It's certainly something in that circuit though.

03-26-2012, 08:43 AM	#2
Papa_Complex Nomadic Tribesman Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Brampton, Canada Moto: '09 ER-6n Posts: 11,150	If the main fuse is good, and you've got voltage at the starter relay input terminals, then you've got to look at the out voltage output of the starter relay and the headlight relay. If the starter relay is toast, then you won't get any power to the reg/rec, headlight relay, anything. Also look for splices in that line. If you see any don't mess around; just redo them. __________________ "Everything's better with pirates." - Lodge, "Dorkness Rising" http://www.morallyambiguous.net/

03-31-2012, 02:41 PM	#6
Papa_Complex Nomadic Tribesman Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Brampton, Canada Moto: '09 ER-6n Posts: 11,150	Sounds like a dead short or, and this will sound stupid, a battery that has been connected backwards. Or a fried Reg/Rec. Or a battery that has almost zero charge (no current equals no voltage, when you turn the key; high resistance in the voltmeter means you read voltage, even with almost no charge). Have you tried putting the old battery back in? I've lost track of what you've tried and what you haven't. Maybe a recap? __________________ "Everything's better with pirates." - Lodge, "Dorkness Rising" http://www.morallyambiguous.net/

03-31-2012, 03:40 PM	#8
Papa_Complex Nomadic Tribesman Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Brampton, Canada Moto: '09 ER-6n Posts: 11,150	Bad new battery, bad ignition switch, and/or bad starter switch. __________________ "Everything's better with pirates." - Lodge, "Dorkness Rising" http://www.morallyambiguous.net/

03-31-2012, 02:31 PM	#4
goof2 AMA Supersport Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 4,756	Did you charge the battery at all before you put it in? You can hook the old battery back up and see if it does the same thing (nothing and voltage dropping to zero) or you can connect jumper cables off a car (with the car off) to your new battery and see if the lights etc. come on. If the same thing happens it may be a short in your ignition. If it acts normally the battery may have been shipped without a charge or it is a bad battery.

03-31-2012, 02:50 PM	#7
Homeslice Elitist Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: SF Bay Area Moto: Gix 750 Posts: 11,351	Honda regulator/rectifiers are known to be crap, it's affected CBR's for the last 10-12 years, although supposedly not as bad these days.