Seattle cop punches woman in face during routine jaywalking stop (VIDEO) - Page 5

Kaneman · 06-17-2010, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

Behaviour like that of those two women gets people killed, when they interact with police.

No, only when they interact with cowards.

Again, I'm not defending the women, but we should demand that our police are above that type of behavior.

KSGregman · 06-17-2010, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaneman

No, only when they interact with cowards.

Again, I'm not defending the women, but we should demand that our police are above that type of behavior.

What response from that officer would have been "non-cowardly" and "appropriate" to that situation, in your opinion?

I'm not trying to start an argument...I'm genuinely curious.

goof2 · 06-17-2010, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Kaneman

No, only when they interact with cowards.

Again, I'm not defending the women, but we should demand that our police are above that type of behavior.

I have to agree with KSGregman (and others) on this one. He was struggling with the first girl. The second girl decided to insert herself in to the situation. He needed to remove one of the two of them from the situation as quickly as possible. What type of behavior do you think we should demand the officer use to do so?

Papa_Complex · 06-17-2010, 02:49 PM

Agreed. I don't expect anyone, police officer or otherwise, to react reasonably to an unreasonable situation.

Homeslice · 06-17-2010, 04:03 PM

Officers don't get trained for nothing.......they're supposed to USE their training.........So how about subduing the suspect so that they can be taken down and cuffed............instead of being forced to punch, taze, or shoot them?

They work for US, not the other way around. And most normal taxpayers expect cops to subdue suspects in ways that have the least possibility of serious injury or death (yes tazers can kill).

Edit: I still think she got owned

Women of a certain race think they can get away with anything

Papa_Complex · 06-17-2010, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice

Officers don't get trained for nothing.......they're supposed to USE their training.........So how about subduing the suspect so that they can be cuffed............instead of being forced to punch, taze, or shoot them?

That would be the training that teaches them how to take on a subject, one-on-one, and take him down with minimal chance of injury, or how to act in concert with other officers in order to do the same?

Homeslice · 06-17-2010, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

That would be the training that teaches them how to take on a subject, one-on-one, and take him down with minimal chance of injury, or how to act in concert with other officers in order to do the same?

Which is exactly the training I meant......... The training he so obviously didn't use.

goof2 · 06-17-2010, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice

Officers don't get trained for nothing.......they're supposed to USE their training.........So how about subduing the suspect so that they can be taken down and cuffed............instead of being forced to punch, taze, or shoot them?

I'll agree that he seemed to have a lot more trouble subduing the first girl than he should have. If anything it looked like he was trying to be too gentle with her. Regardless, he did not have the first girl subdued when the second girl decided to get involved. I don't know how he could have dealt with that part of the situation much better than he did.

Papa_Complex · 06-17-2010, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice

Which is exactly the training I meant......... The training he so obviously didn't use.

That would be the training that doesn't apply when facing multiple opponents?

z06boy · 06-17-2010, 05:33 PM

I don't think he should have punched her in the face with an overhand right BUT he should have already taken the first girl down and cuffed her...even if it was done harshly...bend her wrist or fingers far enough and she'll likely drop...if not...sweep her feet out from under her and slam her...if that doesn't work...kick her in the side of the knee...if that doesn't work then taze her azz and screw whomever doesn't like it...the b!tch shouldn't be resisting.

Although I don't agree with the punch...he's not a coward just because he lost it for a second and threw the punch. How does that make him a coward ? If anything he makes him overly aggressive or a bully. A coward ? Nope.

As far as dealing with the 2nd girl...same for her as I stated above...he11 pepper spray her.

I do get tired of women breaking bad and then expecting to be handled with kid gloves BUT again...the overhand right...just don't agree with that...but he's not a coward...a coward would have back peddled or went and jumped in the car or something imho with that many people standing around or maybe pulled his service pistol and shot somebody.

06-17-2010, 02:49 PM	#44
Papa_Complex Nomadic Tribesman Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Brampton, Canada Moto: '09 ER-6n Posts: 11,150	Agreed. I don't expect anyone, police officer or otherwise, to react reasonably to an unreasonable situation. __________________ "Everything's better with pirates." - Lodge, "Dorkness Rising" http://www.morallyambiguous.net/

06-17-2010, 04:03 PM	#45
Homeslice Elitist Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: SF Bay Area Moto: Gix 750 Posts: 11,351	Officers don't get trained for nothing.......they're supposed to USE their training.........So how about subduing the suspect so that they can be taken down and cuffed............instead of being forced to punch, taze, or shoot them? They work for US, not the other way around. And most normal taxpayers expect cops to subdue suspects in ways that have the least possibility of serious injury or death (yes tazers can kill). Edit: I still think she got owned Women of a certain race think they can get away with anything Last edited by Homeslice; 06-17-2010 at 04:09 PM..

06-17-2010, 05:33 PM	#50
z06boy Letzroll Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Lake Norman area, NC Moto: 07 Red R1 & 07 Blue R6 Posts: 5,265	I don't think he should have punched her in the face with an overhand right BUT he should have already taken the first girl down and cuffed her...even if it was done harshly...bend her wrist or fingers far enough and she'll likely drop...if not...sweep her feet out from under her and slam her...if that doesn't work...kick her in the side of the knee...if that doesn't work then taze her azz and screw whomever doesn't like it...the b!tch shouldn't be resisting. Although I don't agree with the punch...he's not a coward just because he lost it for a second and threw the punch. How does that make him a coward ? If anything he makes him overly aggressive or a bully. A coward ? Nope. As far as dealing with the 2nd girl...same for her as I stated above...he11 pepper spray her. I do get tired of women breaking bad and then expecting to be handled with kid gloves BUT again...the overhand right...just don't agree with that...but he's not a coward...a coward would have back peddled or went and jumped in the car or something imho with that many people standing around or maybe pulled his service pistol and shot somebody.