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Old 03-13-2009, 12:12 PM   #31
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I really doubt it.

Another problem with 600's is that the rpm's are higher on the freeway, which gets old over long distances.

750 is the best of both worlds, they are better commuters than 600's, better handlers than most 1000's
Agreed that's why I chose the 750 for my last bike.
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Old 03-13-2009, 05:38 PM   #32
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I can see suzuki doing away with the 750 eventually. the only reason why it survived to this day is because the gsxr 750 is widely popular. but it seems that 750cc is starting to be an oddball size. like stated earlier the liters are flagships, but the 600's are making their marks as middleweights and starter bikes.
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Old 03-13-2009, 07:01 PM   #33
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zuks:

http://www.sportrider.com/tech/146_w...ts/index8.html

hondas:

http://www.sportrider.com/tech/146_w...ts/index8.html

by year its not quite what i was saying but damn is it close. early millenium appears to be the low point for bike weight
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Old 03-13-2009, 07:35 PM   #34
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02 954 = 04 GSXR750 wet weight according to that chart

Bikes are getting heavier as they have made them as light as they can without sacrificing strength and affordablity, and are having to put on more wieght with all the emissions shit.
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Bikes are getting heavier as they have made them as light as they can without sacrificing strength and affordablity, and are having to put on more wieght with all the emissions shit.
yea, the gsxr 1000 went from single to dual exhausts because of emissions.
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Old 03-13-2009, 08:55 PM   #36
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I still say a new ZX-7R would own. That bike had a different look all its own, low and mean. Styling is important to most people, especially since a 750 is more likely to be purchased by a street rider rather than a track rider. If Kawi came out with a new 7R with killer looks, not all insect-like like the rest of their bikes, it could easily de-throne the Gixxer.
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I still say a new ZX-7R would own. That bike had a different look all its own, low and mean. Styling is important to most people, especially since a 750 is more likely to be purchased by a street rider rather than a track rider. If Kawi came out with a new 7R with killer looks, not all insect-like like the rest of their bikes, it could easily de-throne the Gixxer.

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Old 03-24-2009, 02:29 AM   #38
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I still say a new ZX-7R would own. That bike had a different look all its own, low and mean. Styling is important to most people, especially since a 750 is more likely to be purchased by a street rider rather than a track rider. If Kawi came out with a new 7R with killer looks, not all insect-like like the rest of their bikes, it could easily de-throne the Gixxer.
Kawi has gone the way of harder ergos every since the intro. of the 636.

If you want a good ergo bike, get a 600rr in 2007 or higher. I keep dragging my toe in the canyons, but that is nothing some rearsets couldn't fix. The bike can be ridden all day w/o hurting anything. Its comfy.

But yes to your suggestion. If Kawi could make a new 7r that was light and had an ultra short stroke (torque), I'd buy one. The Gixxer 750s are still too high end RPM bikes IMO. The difference between the 750 and 600 isn't all that great. Its something the 675 and 848 has over the 600...torque.

Along the same lines...Kawi isn't going to come out with a 750 unless AMA starts to allow it to race.
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Kawi has gone the way of harder ergos every since the intro. of the 636.

If you want a good ergo bike, get a 600rr in 2007 or higher. I keep dragging my toe in the canyons, but that is nothing some rearsets couldn't fix. The bike can be ridden all day w/o hurting anything. Its comfy.

But yes to your suggestion. If Kawi could make a new 7r that was light and had an ultra short stroke (torque), I'd buy one. The Gixxer 750s are still too high end RPM bikes IMO. The difference between the 750 and 600 isn't all that great. Its something the 675 and 848 has over the 600...torque.

Along the same lines...Kawi isn't going to come out with a 750 unless AMA starts to allow it to race.
i think you mean longer stroke there
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Old 03-24-2009, 11:31 AM   #40
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You guys are forgetting that online internet forums often gather a larger percentage of intelligent riders; this is not indicative of the percentage of intelligent riders in the overall riding community.

We here on forums are into bikes, some of us do track days and race, most of us are into riding hard but also safely and geared up.

When the new ninja 250's come out we all are interested... the average rider, not so much. They all want gixxer 1000's.

The market for a 750 just isn't that large, in reality. The gixxer 750 is a sick bike though.

The other thing to note is bike width... the gixxer 1000 is a lot wider when you sit on it than the 750... felt like a tank when i sat on one. Even if the weights were the exact same, I would buy the 750 just for the shape.
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