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Old 09-11-2009, 07:17 PM   #31
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Kaneman, my daughter is doing a school project on stereo types of APBTs, would you mind emailing me copy of the pics with the kitty attacking the pup?
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Old 09-11-2009, 07:58 PM   #32
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Kaneman, my daughter is doing a school project on stereo types of APBTs, would you mind emailing me copy of the pics with the kitty attacking the pup?
Not at all, if helpful I have some other pics of my old APBT being friendly as well. PM me your email.
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Old 09-11-2009, 08:27 PM   #33
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There are a lot of shitty ass Pit Bull owners, yes. This breed has been selected to be the current tough guy dog by every thug in all the hoods from NY to CA. Before them it was the Rottweiler and before them it was the Doberman.

All the problems you describe, running off, crawling on guests, not fetching etc and not going to the dog part are all 100% issues caused by people. They are a very intelligent breed, loyal, great with children, powerful, determined, decent olfactory equipment, robust and healthy (few genetic issues) and have amusing fun loving personalities. They can do search and rescue work, run agility, or just serve as a good exercise partner.

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All of your friends need to pick up a book and learn something about dogs before they find themselves in trouble.
Yet another factor I've found in my rather drawn out research process (yes, I'm still looking at the possibility of owning a dog) is the concept of dogs that are not for inexperienced or lazy owners.
It seems like a lot of the cases where people have aggressive or badly behaved dogs can be linked to those owners' failure to understand the special needs of the breed or lacking the skills to manage them.

...but you've kind of already said all that.
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Old 09-11-2009, 09:11 PM   #34
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Yet another factor I've found in my rather drawn out research process (yes, I'm still looking at the possibility of owning a dog) is the concept of dogs that are not for inexperienced or lazy owners.
It seems like a lot of the cases where people have aggressive or badly behaved dogs can be linked to those owners' failure to understand the special needs of the breed or lacking the skills to manage them.

...but you've kind of already said all that.
You can effectively lead a Bulldog without too much exercise, so that's not a bad dog for lazy people. Still very important to strive to be the leader and make sure your dog knows...but still, not as much exercise involved with these guys.
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Old 09-11-2009, 09:25 PM   #35
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Kaneman. I see your point but I think genetically pitbulls are aggresive animals. I think there is no way to compare the gentleness of a say a labrador vs a pitbull. Labs could muck a human up just as easily as a pit bull but you rarely hear of lab attacks.

Maybe the breed should be regulated. If you use the phrase "Gixxer" and own an Affliction T-shirt then you should not be allowed to own a pitbull.

Though I must retract an earlier statement about how there should be no dog breed bans. I think the Bulldog should be banned.
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Old 09-11-2009, 09:28 PM   #36
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Real shame that people feel that way Smittie, but little can be done to change people's pre-conceived notions.
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Old 09-11-2009, 09:39 PM   #37
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Real shame that people feel that way Smittie, but little can be done to change people's pre-conceived notions.
hell thats true about everything in the world
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Old 09-12-2009, 01:28 AM   #38
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Pit bull owners are like Ducati owners, there are two types:

1. The posers who need it to look badass, wealthy, cool, fast, whatever.

2. The true aficionados who refuse to admit that there are other breeds/brands that will do the same job/task/etc. with less money, effort and risk.
Nope pitbulls are the GSXRs of the dog world! They are owned mostly by jackasses that have no clue how to properly utilize them, thus making all the legitimate owners jackasses by association. No offense but I also agree that "most" pitbulls I've ever seen were fucking stupid, stubborn and aggressive towards other dogs. I guarantee that my old Australian Shepherd/Border Collie mix would run circles around any Pitbull in any type of intelligence test. My new dog the Rhodesian Ridge back... not so much... Although, he is very social and easily trained, there's not much going on behind those eyes. Since he's a lazy breed, he's perfect for my lazy ass and that's why I got him.
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Old 09-12-2009, 01:51 AM   #39
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..... My new dog the Rhodesian Ridge back... .
Pics or he doesn't exist.
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