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Old 08-27-2009, 10:03 AM   #31
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Ambly has it mostly right. Except it is my contention that no one should ever lay hands. Ever. Never ever. Violence begets violence.
Maybe we should go the way of "Demolition Man" No football, basketball, boxing, karate....and sure as hell no hockey!
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Old 08-27-2009, 10:04 AM   #32
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Ambly has it mostly right. Except it is my contention that no one should ever lay hands. Ever. Never ever. Violence begets violence.
Were you spanked (as a kid)?
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Old 08-27-2009, 10:14 AM   #33
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Old 08-27-2009, 10:33 AM   #34
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Violence begets violence.


Violence (fight or flight) and physical attraction(sex) are our most natural instincts. A part of who we are. Survival of the fittest, the strongest, and fastest.

Its unbelievable that people cant see that for themselves. Violence is an effective way of settling arguements, fights, displays of superiority, etc etc. If more people stood toe to toe with bare knuckes when things couldnt be settles, thered be a lot less murder and a lot more small, inconsequential injuries.

Im all for violence. I am not for beating on people who cant defend themselves. But I am for spanking dumbass kids, or giving your teenage son a backhander when he's disrespecting his mother.

But, parents are as big of pussies as the kids nowadays. And it seems that the world wants to change our natural instinct of fight into flight, which is sad.

Instead of having kids who are proud and strong, and willing to stand up for themselves, we have pussy children who run to mommy crying, or who later bring guns to school because its the only way they know how to 'get back' at those bothering them.

Everyone should be taught to box in early grades as far as im concerned. The ability to defend yourself is just as important as the ability to read or write. (as important, not moreso)

Why are we so scared of our children being hurt? mentally and physicly. Amateur hockey here has destroyed hockey for children here. All the violence is gone, and at the lowest levels they dont even keep score because they dont want kids to think there is a winner or a loser. WTF is up with that? Why would kids want to improve if they didnt know they lost? They dont. And as such, the level of hockey in younger players is going down.

Why do we feel the need to constantly protect children, instead of letting them learn heartache, pain, and loss on their own. They'll be much better people for it.

Im all for more violence and less negotiation.
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Old 08-27-2009, 10:41 AM   #35
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Yay for me getting parenting advice from people without kids.

Yes, I was spanked. Yes, I grew up in an angry household. No, I won't ever encourage someone to do that to their own children. There is a better way, and I've proven it. I'm right now dealing with a legal matter, where my parenting methods are being tested with therapists and lawyers. When the dust settles, I'll let you buy my book.....
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Violence (fight or flight) and physical attraction(sex) are our most natural instincts. A part of who we are. Survival of the fittest, the strongest, and fastest.

Its unbelievable that people cant see that for themselves. Violence is an effective way of settling arguements, fights, displays of superiority, etc etc. If more people stood toe to toe with bare knuckes when things couldnt be settles, thered be a lot less murder and a lot more small, inconsequential injuries.

Im all for violence. I am not for beating on people who cant defend themselves. But I am for spanking dumbass kids, or giving your teenage son a backhander when he's disrespecting his mother.

But, parents are as big of pussies as the kids nowadays. And it seems that the world wants to change our natural instinct of fight into flight, which is sad.

Instead of having kids who are proud and strong, and willing to stand up for themselves, we have pussy children who run to mommy crying, or who later bring guns to school because its the only way they know how to 'get back' at those bothering them.

Everyone should be taught to box in early grades as far as im concerned. The ability to defend yourself is just as important as the ability to read or write. (as important, not moreso)

Why are we so scared of our children being hurt? mentally and physicly. Amateur hockey here has destroyed hockey for children here. All the violence is gone, and at the lowest levels they dont even keep score because they dont want kids to think there is a winner or a loser. WTF is up with that? Why would kids want to improve if they didnt know they lost? They dont. And as such, the level of hockey in younger players is going down.

Why do we feel the need to constantly protect children, instead of letting them learn heartache, pain, and loss on their own. They'll be much better people for it.

Im all for more violence and less negotiation.

Well said.
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Yay for me getting parenting advice from people without kids.

Yes, I was spanked. Yes, I grew up in an angry household. No, I won't ever encourage someone to do that to their own children. There is a better way, and I've proven it. I'm right now dealing with a legal matter, where my parenting methods are being tested with therapists and lawyers. When the dust settles, I'll let you buy my book.....
I never gave any advice.

Your contention is that violence begets violence yet you yourself have proven otherwise.
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I never said I haven't been a violent person. I said I haven't and wouldn't with kids.

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I never gave any advice.

Your contention is that violence begets violence yet you yourself have proven otherwise.
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Old 08-27-2009, 10:58 AM   #39
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Yay for me getting parenting advice from people without kids.

Yes, I was spanked. Yes, I grew up in an angry household. No, I won't ever encourage someone to do that to their own children. There is a better way, and I've proven it. I'm right now dealing with a legal matter, where my parenting methods are being tested with therapists and lawyers. When the dust settles, I'll let you buy my book.....
I got spanked too, when I did something bad enough. My dad never beat me, ever. Closest he came, I was about 13, and wouldn't move so my mother could get by with her clothes basket. Told her she'd have to wait the 30 seconds it was gonna take. I was at that cocky age where I started to figure I didnt need to listen to them, I was bigger.

Dad threw me headfirst into a wall.

Know what I learned? Not that my dad is a violent or angry man (he's not in any way), I learned that when my mom tells you to move, you fucking move. I was taught the lesson of respect, through the medium of violence.

when I went to highschool, we had this wierdo named Tiger who liked to make fun of me. One day I went to the school basement, and beat on him for a while. Cut him from the cheek to the forehead. He never picked on me again, ever. He learned a lesson, through the medium of violence...

Sometimes its called for, and most times its effective.. Im all for using it when the situation calls for it.
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