Epic Helmet Law Protestor is Epic

['73 H1 Triple]

This news story is making the rounds. Here's what was posted on a corvette forum.

Anybody seen someone spread their brains out on the pavement for real?

I was doing some photography back in college and into my frame came a cycle hitting a car. The cycle driver flew off the car (I naturally panned with him) and landed head first on the pavement - his head blasting open like a watermelon dropped from a helicopter.

I was firing about 5 frames per second - not thinking about it, just reflex. Gave the film to the cops.

I was using a zoom lens. I saw brains.

Probably a good idea to wear a helmet. Should it be a law? Well, he did make an awful mess on the street. But nope. Too many nanny laws.

If you don't wear a helmet, you deserve what you get because Darwin's law applies.


Last sentence is blunt and to the point.

[Avatard]

Originally Posted by askmrjesus

As long as you have the health insurance to back it up, you're right.

If not, you pass your problem onto others.

JC

So make that the requirement for going bucketless.

Done.

[askmrjesus]

Originally Posted by Avatard

So make that the requirement for going bucketless.

Done.

People who refuse to wear helmets would probably look at that as an infringement of their right to be stupid. Such a law would also be nearly unenforceable. How are the cops supposed to know you're "exempt from self-preservation", without pulling you over?

JC

['73 H1 Triple]

Originally Posted by askmrjesus

People who refuse to wear helmets would probably look at that as an infringement of their right to be stupid. Such a law would also be nearly unenforceable. How are the cops supposed to know you're "exempt from self-preservation", without pulling you over?

JC

From this same news story on a kawi triple forum
I've been riding continuously for 44 years youngster. It's my opinion you are 100% wrong but that's beside the point. This is America, I'm tired of loosing personal privileges to the fricking liberals who know everything that's for my own good. I left California for that very same reason. I live in a state where personal freedoms are abundant. We used to have a helmet law and it was repealed long ago. We have races up mountains where you can park your chair anywhere you want. If you get run over because you're stupid - tough but it's your life.

I'll concede helmets can save lives, but do the proper research and you'll find that an overwhelming percentage of deaths involving motorcycles - wearing a helmet would not have mattered anyway. In fact there is a small percentage where perception impairment was a contributing factor.
People pushing helmet laws are idiots because they're ignorant of real facts or they live in a state where if injured the state will carry you for life so it becomes a financial issue disguised behind a mandatory law. We don't have stupid laws like that where I live!

Myself and only for myself - I have a living will, a DNR, organ donor card, plenty of medical insurance and life insurance too. My kids are grown and I'm an adult. If I die tomorrow from ANY cause I won't be a burden financially to anyone or anything. I live my life the way I choose - not by somebody's sense of what's good for me or a hidden agenda.



To which this reply was made
It's not a political issue, or a personal rights issue. Driving is a priviledge, not a right! If you live in a country, and are allowed to leave, then it is your duty to that country to abide by it's laws.

The helmets law is for the the "ones" that don't have any common sense.

The ones that can truely, and morally, not wear a helmet when riding, are the ones with no family or friends. For the simple reason, if a person is so self centered they they don't care about their family/friends/and loved ones, the ones that will hurt for the rest of their lives because of whatever reason that person didn't wear a helmet.

It doesn't (or ever mattered) if it's a law or not, it's the respect for the people that know and love you. Family and friends will understand if you have a dangerous hobby/job, but never will, if they lose you out of you own arrogance.

The guy is dead, he is not suffering like the rest of his family will the rest of their lives...........

[derf]

Originally Posted by '73 H1 Triple

From this same news story on a kawi triple forum


I'll concede helmets can save lives, but do the proper research and you'll find that an overwhelming percentage of deaths involving motorcycles - wearing a helmet would not have mattered anyway. In fact there is a small percentage where perception impairment was a contributing factor.
People pushing helmet laws are idiots because they're ignorant of real facts or they live in a state where if injured the state will carry you for life so it becomes a financial issue disguised behind a mandatory law. We don't have stupid laws like that where I live!

correct me if I'm wrong but this isnt true. My understanding is that the larger number of deaths are caused by head injuries that would have been preventable with a helmet

[Avatard]

Originally Posted by '73 H1 Triple

From this same news story on a kawi triple forum
I've been riding continuously for 44 years youngster. It's my opinion you are 100% wrong but that's beside the point. This is America, I'm tired of loosing personal privileges to the fricking liberals who know everything that's for my own good. I left California for that very same reason. I live in a state where personal freedoms are abundant. We used to have a helmet law and it was repealed long ago. We have races up mountains where you can park your chair anywhere you want. If you get run over because you're stupid - tough but it's your life.

I'll concede helmets can save lives, but do the proper research and you'll find that an overwhelming percentage of deaths involving motorcycles - wearing a helmet would not have mattered anyway. In fact there is a small percentage where perception impairment was a contributing factor.
People pushing helmet laws are idiots because they're ignorant of real facts or they live in a state where if injured the state will carry you for life so it becomes a financial issue disguised behind a mandatory law. We don't have stupid laws like that where I live!

Myself and only for myself - I have a living will, a DNR, organ donor card, plenty of medical insurance and life insurance too. My kids are grown and I'm an adult. If I die tomorrow from ANY cause I won't be a burden financially to anyone or anything. I live my life the way I choose - not by somebody's sense of what's good for me or a hidden agenda.



To which this reply was made
It's not a political issue, or a personal rights issue. Driving is a priviledge, not a right! If you live in a country, and are allowed to leave, then it is your duty to that country to abide by it's laws.

The helmets law is for the the "ones" that don't have any common sense.

The ones that can truely, and morally, not wear a helmet when riding, are the ones with no family or friends. For the simple reason, if a person is so self centered they they don't care about their family/friends/and loved ones, the ones that will hurt for the rest of their lives because of whatever reason that person didn't wear a helmet.

It doesn't (or ever mattered) if it's a law or not, it's the respect for the people that know and love you. Family and friends will understand if you have a dangerous hobby/job, but never will, if they lose you out of you own arrogance.

The guy is dead, he is not suffering like the rest of his family will the rest of their lives...........

To which I offer this quote (emphasis added by me):

The object of this Essay is to assert one very simple principle, as entitled to govern absolutely the dealings of society with the individual in the way of compulsion and control, whether the means used be physical force in the form of legal penalties, or the moral coercion of public opinion. That principle is, that the sole end for which mankind are warranted, individually or collectively, in interfering with the liberty of action of any of their number, is self-protection. That the only purpose for which power can be rightfully exercised over any member of a civilized community, against his will, is to prevent harm to others. His own good, either physical or moral, is not sufficient warrant. He cannot rightfully be compelled to do or forbear because it will be better for him to do so, because it will make him happier, because, in the opinion of others, to do so would be wise, or even right... The only part of the conduct of anyone, for which he is amenable to society, is that which concerns others. In the part which merely concerns himself, his independence is, of right, absolute. Over himself, over his own body and mind, the individual is sovereign.

-John Stuart Mill

[askmrjesus]

Originally Posted by '73 H1 Triple

The helmets law is for the the "ones" that don't have any common sense.

It's unfortunate, but sometimes common sense has to be forced onto people.

Take some 16 year old kid, give him a GSXR, and let him make the helmet decision?

You might as well just take him out back and shoot him.

JC

[shmike]

Originally Posted by Avatard

So make that the requirement for going bucketless.

Done.

Originally Posted by askmrjesus

People who refuse to wear helmets would probably look at that as an infringement of their right to be stupid. Such a law would also be nearly unenforceable. How are the cops supposed to know you're "exempt from self-preservation", without pulling you over?

JC

I didn't read the rest of the thread but this is exactly how it is done in FL.

No insurance required on bikes.

Over 21 and proper insurance = no helmet required.

Over 21 and no insurance = helmet required.

The cops can't tell if you have coverage or not without pulling you over but if you do get popped, a fine will result.

Under 21 = special plate, helmet required at all times.

[Avatard]

If only that worked for this guy, huh? Oh well. So much for that idea.

Use the front brake, kids. Physics. It's the law.

[Particle Man]

Originally Posted by Avatard

If only that worked for this guy, huh? Oh well. So much for that idea.

Use the front brake, kids. Physics. It's the law.

I've met plenty who are terrified of the front brake. Almost all of them have wrecked at least once by getting into situations where they were not able to stop fast enough.