speaking of tips: arrested for not paying - Page 3

Kaneman · 11-20-2009, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

"Quiet... Kept to himself... Never caused any trouble in the neighbourhood..."

"He was really turning his life around"

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Originally Posted by Rider

No, I hate people.. seriously. I have a handful of close friends and that's all I want/need. I'm a jackass to everyone else.

Now, I thought I hated people. My old man even gives me shit about not wanting to be around people. I too have two good friends, my wife, and that's it. I don't go anywhere that people are packed into tight places (nightclubs, waterparks, etc.) But while my own hatred is passive because I don't give a shit, yours seem to be aggressive and scary.

Just to be safe, I'm sending Highway Patrol to confiscate your weapons.

Rider · 11-20-2009, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaneman

"He was really turning his life around"

Now, I thought I hated people. My old man even gives me shit about not wanting to be around people. I too have two good friends, my wife, and that's it. I don't go anywhere that people are packed into tight places (nightclubs, waterparks, etc.) But while my own hatred is passive because I don't give a shit, yours seem to be aggressive and scary.

Just to be safe, I'm sending Highway Patrol to confiscate your weapons.

Blame the US government. It's the military that made me that way.

Ineffable · 11-20-2009, 09:43 PM

This has happened to me before and I just came across this article thought everyone might have some comments.

Couple arrested for not paying tip

When I was living in Houston a bunch of my friends and I went out to Baker Street Pub and Grill in the Woodlands. We went there pretty often and a lot of the other guys had complained about the bills being way to high. I marked it up to them drinking to much and forgetting what they ordered. So this night I decided to keep a running tab on my phone of everything we ordered. After a night of heavy drinking everyone except myself (DD) was pretty intoxicated some waitress (notice I didn't say THE waitress) brings us our bill. If memory serves it was somewhere in the neighborhood of $930 which honestly wasn't unusual for us when we went out. I thought it was strange she brought it over since we had been ordering drinks all night at the bar on a tab. I started looking over the receipt and I noticed several drinks we didn't order and a 15% gratuity added. When I asked the bar tender about it he said that the waitress came and got the drinks in question for us. We were all sitting at the same table that night and not once did we ever see the waitress nor did she ever bring drinks over. I knew exactly what was ordered because I was the drink bitch that night to monitor what was spent since we were using the company card. I asked to speak with the manager and told him the situation, I spoke with him for about 20 minutes and the waitress flat out lied and said she had been serving us, direct quote, 'hand and foot' all night. He said the bill stands and that he stood by his waitress (which I can understand, give him a + for being a good boss) however I told him that at the LEAST we will go ahead and pay for the 80 or 90 dollars in drinks we didn't order but we were NOT going to pay the 15% gratuity (around 120 dollars) because like I said we had been ordering at the bar and tipping the bar tender in cash which he confirmed.

The manager called the cops and after everything was explained one of the officers pulled me outside and even said that they get this all the time here and there is nothing they can do about it. So to make a long story short we paid the bill then were banned (which was dumb on there part since we spent around 3k a week there between the 10 of us) so we told the manager to fuck off, gave the bartender a $50 went home and canceled the charge on the card.

I think the whole forced tip on the receipt is BS, I understand that some people don't tip or tip crappy but I have noticed when a restaurant puts it on the bill then the service goes down because the waiter/waitress knows they are going to get a tip regardless.

Ineffable · 11-20-2009, 10:11 PM

Guess this is a re-post, just saw it in the News Desk. Sorry

Smittie61984 · 11-20-2009, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 101lifts2

I mean WTF is gratuity if it's forced on you? And wtf is the difference if 6 independant people come in or 6 at once? Another scam IMO.

I've only seen gratuity added to large parties which I do understand and is always explained ahead of time.

I bet the unions are behind these mandatory tips. Then people wonder why businesses are moving south or out of the country.

Kaneman · 11-21-2009, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Smittie61984

I bet the unions are behind these mandatory tips. Then people wonder why businesses are moving south or out of the country.

No dude, no.

Smittie61984 · 11-21-2009, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaneman

No dude, no.

You think not? Come on, they're neighbors to a state that won't let you pump your own gas because they want to save some dumbass' job, you think that a union strong state like Pennsilvania won't have laws that protect "servers"?

tommymac · 11-21-2009, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaneman

"He was really turning his life around"

And he was an aspiring rapper, oh wait thats the news articles up here

Tom

Kaneman · 11-21-2009, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Smittie61984

You think not? Come on, they're neighbors to a state that won't let you pump your own gas because they want to save some dumbass' job, you think that a union strong state like Pennsilvania won't have laws that protect "servers"?

I know not. Shitty people that don't tip 15-20% for good service are the one and only reason gratuity is added on to large parties. Its the servers choice at most restaurants to add that on at the register when they print the ticket. If you're serving a table that you think may not tip well, you add it on. Its a gamble...

Tmall · 11-21-2009, 10:40 AM

But there is no obligation to pay it. Unless she told you before you ordered that you would be subject to a "have more than 4 friends" tax.

11-20-2009, 09:43 PM	#23
Ineffable Kneedragger Join Date: May 2008 Location: Boulder CO Moto: 2009 KTM RC8 Posts: 166	ANOTHER tip thread, forced gratuity This has happened to me before and I just came across this article thought everyone might have some comments. Couple arrested for not paying tip When I was living in Houston a bunch of my friends and I went out to Baker Street Pub and Grill in the Woodlands. We went there pretty often and a lot of the other guys had complained about the bills being way to high. I marked it up to them drinking to much and forgetting what they ordered. So this night I decided to keep a running tab on my phone of everything we ordered. After a night of heavy drinking everyone except myself (DD) was pretty intoxicated some waitress (notice I didn't say THE waitress) brings us our bill. If memory serves it was somewhere in the neighborhood of $930 which honestly wasn't unusual for us when we went out. I thought it was strange she brought it over since we had been ordering drinks all night at the bar on a tab. I started looking over the receipt and I noticed several drinks we didn't order and a 15% gratuity added. When I asked the bar tender about it he said that the waitress came and got the drinks in question for us. We were all sitting at the same table that night and not once did we ever see the waitress nor did she ever bring drinks over. I knew exactly what was ordered because I was the drink bitch that night to monitor what was spent since we were using the company card. I asked to speak with the manager and told him the situation, I spoke with him for about 20 minutes and the waitress flat out lied and said she had been serving us, direct quote, 'hand and foot' all night. He said the bill stands and that he stood by his waitress (which I can understand, give him a + for being a good boss) however I told him that at the LEAST we will go ahead and pay for the 80 or 90 dollars in drinks we didn't order but we were NOT going to pay the 15% gratuity (around 120 dollars) because like I said we had been ordering at the bar and tipping the bar tender in cash which he confirmed. The manager called the cops and after everything was explained one of the officers pulled me outside and even said that they get this all the time here and there is nothing they can do about it. So to make a long story short we paid the bill then were banned (which was dumb on there part since we spent around 3k a week there between the 10 of us) so we told the manager to fuck off, gave the bartender a $50 went home and canceled the charge on the card. I think the whole forced tip on the receipt is BS, I understand that some people don't tip or tip crappy but I have noticed when a restaurant puts it on the bill then the service goes down because the waiter/waitress knows they are going to get a tip regardless.

11-20-2009, 10:11 PM	#24
Ineffable Kneedragger Join Date: May 2008 Location: Boulder CO Moto: 2009 KTM RC8 Posts: 166	Guess this is a re-post, just saw it in the News Desk. Sorry

11-21-2009, 10:40 AM	#30
Tmall Aspiring Rapper Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Halifax, NS Moto: '12 CB1000R Posts: 3,569	But there is no obligation to pay it. Unless she told you before you ordered that you would be subject to a "have more than 4 friends" tax.