Anwar Awlaki Killed by U.S....Ron Paul Responds.. - Page 3

RACER X · 10-01-2011, 07:00 PM

props to big O if the story is the truth

lol

101lifts2 · 10-01-2011, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by EpyonXero

I think if you self-identify as a member of enemy group, like AlQeda you wave your right to due process.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/exclusiv...161008956.html

You kill this guy and 6 more will take his place. We would not have terrorists with any sort of power if governments didn't train them and prop them up financially.

When are we (let's negate the money transfer scheme here) going to realize that killing Muslims is not going to change an ideology. We need to quit fucking around in these Arab countries and quit worrying about whether Iran is going to blow up Israel. Why should America give a shit? Oil? World domination? We like Jews? It's about money folks and people here are dying over it..and ironically lining up in droves to do it.

Let's face it people...we are fucking BROKE with a capital B and we continue to bleed money overseas for no other reason then to make a select few rich in the name of "security".

fujimoh · 10-02-2011, 12:02 PM

I wonder how Americans will feel when Islamists (Iraqis, Afghans, Pakistanis, palestinians, pick one) decide to execute the "terrorists" in America, on American soil, like a mall, transport hub, or sporting event, who have invaded their lands and killed their people?

Will we be OK with getting what we have been giving?

It is not a matter of who started what and when, it is a matter of where and how it will end.

We fire Hellfire rounds at "targets" without regard for who else may be there, but it is not acceptable for them to detonate backpacks or vests in public here?

Is it going to be OK for Islamists to execute people in America who are on their "hit Lists?"

Smittie61984 · 10-02-2011, 12:11 PM

Let's say a general of the US Army decides to side with the enemy. Let's say Stormin Norman decided he wanted to side with Iraq and flew to Iraq and started directing Iraq troops against American troops. Do we allow him to walk around the street with out worry becuase he knows we have to extract him and not kill him so he can be put on trial?

I don't know much about this guy, but I'm guessing that taking the effort to go to Yemen to work with terrorist organizations against the United States is renouncing your citizenship and opens you up to the same bombings as every other person gets. Regardless if you have official documents from the government or not.

goof2 · 10-02-2011, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by fujimoh

I wonder how Americans will feel when Islamists (Iraqis, Afghans, Pakistanis, palestinians, pick one) decide to execute the "terrorists" in America, on American soil, like a mall, transport hub, or sporting event, who have invaded their lands and killed their people?

Will we be OK with getting what we have been giving?

It is not a matter of who started what and when, it is a matter of where and how it will end.

We fire Hellfire rounds at "targets" without regard for who else may be there, but it is not acceptable for them to detonate backpacks or vests in public here?

Is it going to be OK for Islamists to execute people in America who are on their "hit Lists?"

You are speaking like this is some kind of hypothetical. I'd say this has been happening for quite a while.

Amorok · 10-02-2011, 01:05 PM

Let's say the government decides you, a citizen are a threat to national security. Would you like a trial like the constitution says you get as a citizen, or just a pre-emptive strike where we totally discard your rights and wipe you out, even though you haven't really done anything and nobody really thinks you have? Think carefully before you answer...

goof2 · 10-02-2011, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Amorok

Let's say the government decides you, a citizen are a threat to national security. Would you like a trial like the constitution says you get as a citizen, or just a pre-emptive strike where we totally discard your rights and wipe you out, even though you haven't really done anything and nobody really thinks you have? Think carefully before you answer...

You present it like these are the only two alternatives.

Personally if I were deemed a threat to national security I would select the trial. I'd do so because I know I probably won't see the inside of a courtroom anytime soon, if ever. What the trial really means is I chill in Yemen for the foreseeable future, protected by my "tribe" from the US and Yemeni governments.

In short, I'd choose the trial because I know the trial will probably never happen.

Smittie61984 · 10-02-2011, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Amorok

Let's say the government decides you, a citizen are a threat to national security. Would you like a trial like the constitution says you get as a citizen, or just a pre-emptive strike where we totally discard your rights and wipe you out, even though you haven't really done anything and nobody really thinks you have? Think carefully before you answer...

As I said, I don't know that many details about this guy. I'm assuming that he was big enough of a deal that the President was willing to drop bombs in another country that we aren't warring with to get this guy. I'm assuming this guy is a bad mama-jama

This guy didn't just give aide and comfort to the enemy by taking some nice pictures and hugging a tank. He became the enemy and started driving the tank.

Now if this guy surrendered to the US or just happend to somehow get captured then yes, he deserves his trial and to be executed if convicted. Since he didn't, he deserved the bombing he got.

I think President Obama did the right thing.

'73 H1 Triple · 10-02-2011, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Amorok

Let's say the government decides you, a citizen are a threat to national security. Would you like a trial like the constitution says you get as a citizen, or just a pre-emptive strike where we totally discard your rights and wipe you out, even though you haven't really done anything and nobody really thinks you have? Think carefully before you answer...

Sort of like Obama and Biden refering to TeaParty folks as terrorists?

Homeslice · 10-02-2011, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by '73 H1 Triple

Sort of like Obama and Biden refering to TeaParty folks as terrorists?

When did this happen?

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fujimoh Kneedragger Join Date: May 2011 Location: Florida Moto: CBR 1000RR Posts: 230	I wonder how Americans will feel when Islamists (Iraqis, Afghans, Pakistanis, palestinians, pick one) decide to execute the "terrorists" in America, on American soil, like a mall, transport hub, or sporting event, who have invaded their lands and killed their people? Will we be OK with getting what we have been giving? It is not a matter of who started what and when, it is a matter of where and how it will end. We fire Hellfire rounds at "targets" without regard for who else may be there, but it is not acceptable for them to detonate backpacks or vests in public here? Is it going to be OK for Islamists to execute people in America who are on their "hit Lists?" Last edited by fujimoh; 10-02-2011 at 12:11 PM..

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Smittie61984 I give Squids a bad name Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Fly Over State Moto: 1996 CBR600 F3 (AKA the Flying Turd) Posts: 4,742	Let's say a general of the US Army decides to side with the enemy. Let's say Stormin Norman decided he wanted to side with Iraq and flew to Iraq and started directing Iraq troops against American troops. Do we allow him to walk around the street with out worry becuase he knows we have to extract him and not kill him so he can be put on trial? I don't know much about this guy, but I'm guessing that taking the effort to go to Yemen to work with terrorist organizations against the United States is renouncing your citizenship and opens you up to the same bombings as every other person gets. Regardless if you have official documents from the government or not. __________________ lifts - R.I.P.

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Amorok Issukangitok Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Biloxi, MS Moto: '06 Suzuki Boulevard C50T Posts: 2,225	Let's say the government decides you, a citizen are a threat to national security. Would you like a trial like the constitution says you get as a citizen, or just a pre-emptive strike where we totally discard your rights and wipe you out, even though you haven't really done anything and nobody really thinks you have? Think carefully before you answer... __________________ What goes around comes around. Sometimes you get what's coming around, and sometimes you are what's coming around. You see what I mean?