Screw you guys....we're going home or afghanistan or somewhere

[azoomm]

Hey, war is good business. We better get going on the next one otherwise we are just going to flood our unemployment market... Oh wait...

[Sixxxxer]

this isnt the 40's and 50's...You dont see the housewive's of america making military equipment for our troops.

You see them complaining about there botox injections and what there wearing to lunch tomorrow.

[Archren]

Originally Posted by Sixxxxer

this isnt the 40's and 50's...You dont see the housewive's of america making military equipment for our troops.

You see them complaining about there botox injections and what there wearing to lunch tomorrow.

And people wonder why some come home and end up killing themselves and/or their loved ones...

[pauldun170]

Originally Posted by Archren

I'm not exactly qualified to offer a solution (here in America, we usually just ignore them.. I know Texans who would prefer to secede from the union, but we're still here ), but I do know that genocide/systematic killing of both militants AND noncombatant civilians by their own government is not really the right way to go about things.

Of course your qualified to offer a hypothetical solution to a hypothetical questions hypothetically asked on a hypotheit...something.

[Homeslice]

Originally Posted by Dave

my house, my vehicles, and my job say fuck you.

no one is saying you shouldn't have a job......or that we didn't accomplish a lot of good things in Iraq.......But I don't think those accomplishments were worth ~4,000 American deaths and trillions of dollars

[azoomm]

Originally Posted by Sixxxxer

this isnt the 40's and 50's...You dont see the housewive's of america making military equipment for our troops.

You see them complaining about there botox injections and what there wearing to lunch tomorrow.

You are absolutely right. Damn housewives and their complaining!

[askmrjesus]

Originally Posted by Sixxxxer

I know it's your Life's work Dave...But I'm 99% sure JC was kidding with that last one...

Yes and no.

The Shi'a and the Sunni have been fighting over the same lame-ass bullshit for 1300+ years. "My first cousin is holier than your first cousin". Both sides are assholes, and always will be.

Under Saddam, anyone that upset the Baath Party applecart, be they Shi'a or Sunni, was likely to get disappeared in the middle of the night. Saddam was Honey Badger, he didn't give a shit who you were. You make trouble, you're dead. Simple.

Because of that kind of rule, sectarian violence between the two groups was lower under Saddam, then it was in post 2003 levels. The numbers are there, and I don't know of any informed individual that disputes this.

So, was it worth it? Well, Dave got a new bike and a house out of the deal, so I guess that makes it worth it to him. For me, not so much. Nine fucking years of this shit, way too many dead and wounded Americans, and money we didn't have to spend in the first place, and what exactly did we "get" for all that?

Saddam is dead. OK, cool. Who's in charge now? A guy from the Islamic Dawa Party. Who the fuck is the Islamic Dawa Party, you ask? The same party that supported the Iranian Revolution, and the taking of our embassy back in '79.

Yay. I feel soooooooo much better now...

JC

[Homeslice]

[Particle Man]

Go JC

[Rangerscott]