I think its dying.... : (

[marko138]

Originally Posted by Porkchop

Gross.

But you're not ruling it out.

[derf]

No apparently he isn't, almost sounds like he wants it, bad

[Porkchop]

Well the bike has been on the charger since about 6pm yesterday, and I just went out and the starter button does nothing. No clicks, no rolls, nothing.

Bad battery???

[wildchild]

Originally Posted by Porkchop

Well the bike has been on the charger since about 6pm yesterday, and I just went out and the starter button does nothing. No clicks, no rolls, nothing.

Bad battery???

turn on the key, look for head light. no light. bad wiring or short possibly fuses. you said it sat out in the rain, did water get into the fuse box? Had it happen to an older yammie I had.
if the head light comes on, push starter button, does light dim?? bad battery.
many other issues could cause this as well. these are usually the first two I think of.

[Particle Man]

Dumb question: is it in gear with the side stand down...?

I ask because I did that this morning...

[azoomm]

Originally Posted by Particle Man

Dumb question: is it in gear with the side stand down...?

I ask because I did that this morning...

Or, kill switch?

[we're trying to help, don't kill us]

[Cutty72]

Put it on a real charger, not a trickle charger. If you drained the battery, and then it sat 3 days before charging, it's probably too drained for a tender to get it back up to snuff.

[Porkchop]

Originally Posted by wildchild

if the head light comes on, push starter button, does light dim?? bad battery.

This.

Originally Posted by Particle Man

Dumb question: is it in gear with the side stand down...?

I ask because I did that this morning...

yes.

Originally Posted by azoomm

Or, kill switch?

[we're trying to help, don't kill us]

I had to check, but yes no kill switch.

[Porkchop]

Originally Posted by Cutty72

Put it on a real charger, not a trickle charger. If you drained the battery, and then it sat 3 days before charging, it's probably too drained for a tender to get it back up to snuff.

Went to autozone and got the battery charged today. I dont have a real charger, just the tender. They said the battery was a little weak, but it should be fine for this summer...

As per the VFR forum, they wanted to make sure nothing was locked up. I've always jumped bikes in 2nd gear, but they said the compression on these bikes makes it tough to jump in that low of a gear. So I did a couple passes down my driveway hill in 4th and 5th, and the wheel finally started spinning the engine over on the 2nd pass. So nothing is really locked up. I emptied the tank (as per you all) and am starting a fresh go through of the petcock to make sure there is no grime in the filter. I am also going to do a quick mod that eliminates the need for the vacuum hose on the tank. Since my bike has no fuel pump and is gravity fed, I am cutting a bigger hole in the rubber diaphram thingy in the petcock, and then plugging the vacuum hose outlet. Then I will go get some fresh premium tomorrow morning. What would you recommend 91 or 93? Does it matter???

Then on to derf's carb school.... with... Sobe bottles?

[derf]

Originally Posted by Porkchop

I am also going to do a quick mod that eliminates the need for the vacuum hose on the tank. Since my bike has no fuel pump and is gravity fed, I am cutting a bigger hole in the rubber diaphram thingy in the petcock, and then plugging the vacuum hose outlet. Then I will go get some fresh premium tomorrow morning. What would you recommend 91 or 93? Does it matter???

DONT DO ANYTHING ELSE. Fix the problem first, you dont want to be chasing problems created by fixes that you create after the fact. Drain the gas, add fresh gas and go from there.

Originally Posted by Porkchop

Then on to derf's carb school.... with... Sobe bottles?

Yes, arizona iced tea bottles work just as well. Because they are glass and dont distort or expand under vaccum or pressure.

Its real simple, on the bottom of each carb is a vaccum fitting.

Stuff needed:

1. two solid glass bottles with a wide mouth top (sobe or arizona iced tea bottles work great

2. two Rubber stops (found in the nuts and bolt isle of home depot or lowes) that fit in the bottle opening

3. a few feet of hose.

4. old oil/trans fluid, basically a fairly thick and heavy liquid


How to build the sync tool:

1. drill 2 holes in each of the rubber stops so that the tubes fits in there very tight, you really need to make sure that it is a good seal between the tube and rubber stops

2. Fill the bottles with oil 1/3 way in each bottle

3. One tube needs to connect the two bottles, this tube needs to be long enough that it reaches and sits on the bottom of each bottle, it also needs to be equal length

4. Put another tube in the rubber stop, and it needs to sit just bellow the bottom of the rubber stop. These two tubes must also be equal length, and long enough to reach the carbs from wherever you are working from, the shorter the better.

5. shove the rubber stops in the bottle top

6. Test by sucking fluid from one bottle to the other and visa versa

7. It should look like this:




How to sync your carbs:

1. Connect each of the tubes from the sync tool to the carbs vaccum fitting (probably on the bottom). One should be going to the fuel petcock, the other should be capped.

2. Start the bike

*watch the bottles very carefully to make sure that the oil isnt sucked into one bottle then straight into the carb. This shouldnt be possible since each bottle is only 1/3 full and the tube leading to the carb should have plenty of wiggle room before it touches the oil if both bottles drain into one.

3. Adjust the carbs until the fluid levels out between the two bottles.

*make small adjustments, the last time I sync'd carbs 1/2 turn of the screw would empty the bottle in a few seconds. Start with 1/16 turns and adjust as necessary

4. If the bike remains running with both bottles evenly filled with fluid then you have a pair of sync'd carbs. Also this isn't rocket science, close is good enough.

Edit: This is what it looked like when I did it