adam corolla on OWSers - Page 3

Kaneman · 12-05-2011, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by fatbuckRTO

The hippy haters I know or have known do so more because of the spitting and the accusations of "baby killer" and the like.

Soon after my dad returned from Vietnam and left the Navy, a man came into his office trying to sell him something. When the man found out he was a Vietnam vet, the first words out of his mouth were "So how many babies did you kill?" He didn't make a sale.

There's a *little* more to the bitterness than just "they have long hair and smell."

Yea it sucks, but its a horrible truth. We killed thousands of babies, women and children. However the public's anger was horribly misplaced in many cases, as you illustrate here. We should've been spitting on politicians and calling them baby killers, not the poor kids that got drafted and sent to the jungles to die.

However, that has nothing to do with the current movement. I'd rather take Ron Paul's word for it than Adam Carolla's...

PAUL: In many ways, it’s a very healthy movement. I’m not one to say, “why don’t you get a bath and go get a job and quit crybabying.” I don’t like that at all. I think that’s a misunderstanding of where the unemployment comes from. The unemployment comes from policy, government policy, and it’s the federal reserve and the business cycle is not a consequence of free markets. That doesn’t mean I think they’re all perfect out there. [...]

When spontaneous movements occur in a country, the johnny-come-latelys like to join and redirect the original intent of the Tea Party Movement and the original intent of the Occupiers, so for that reason the political people get involved and they try to grab hold of the message, and I think that’s been the case on both sides.

http://thinkprogress.org/special/201...cent-movement/

Tmall · 12-03-2011, 08:04 PM

Bowater Jersey paper company just paid two executives 4 million in bonuses in NS. They've threatened to shutdown the mill which directly supplies 1000 jobs to my area. They're doing this because they're not making enough profit. Our idiot government is giving them 25 million to stay open.

25 million to a company that can afford to pay 4 million in bonuses... in all honesty, they'll likely shutdown anyway. But, THEY will be 25 million richer on top of the tax breaks and reduced power rates the've been granted to stay open.

They'll just keep fleecing us and you until we're all bled dry. But you're worried that some dirty hippies are costing cities a few hundred thousand dollars. You've definitely bought into what you're being sold. Hopefully there can be some reform to stop things like this from happening.

Nobody is saying that the dirty hippies deserve a mansion and a Porsche. What they are saying is that corporations shouldn't be earning billions of dollars on the backs of your people. They're saying a CEO should not make more in a day than an average employe of his makes in a year when they're running their companies into the ground to squeeze every last dollar from people who have to work two jobs to support their deadbeat exwives with child support.

You seem to be worried that they'll get a piece of your pie. But honestly, your pie isn't that great. Nobody even wants it. They just want a fair chance at being able to accomplish a living and a life without working a 70 hour week and paying down debt for the next 20 years to pay for an education.

Amber Lamps · 12-04-2011, 01:41 AM

Whoa now.... Who has forced these kids to take out all these loans? Maybe you shouldn't go to college if you can't afford it. Nobody that's who. Besides, when I hear that a college football coach gets paid several million a year.... I understand that a ceo makes a ton of money a year, and maybe more than you think they should be but who gets to set their wages? I want to be able to make as much money as my talent and drive will allow without some government agency setting the limit. Or do you think that they will just stop at ceos? Maybe I shouldn't be able to make over $70, 000 a year.... Maybe everyone should get the same rewards regardless of their talent or effort... Maybe the welfare rat with 15 kids should have a new car in the garage.... I just bought a new one.... That's not fair is it?

nhgunnut · 12-04-2011, 08:28 AM

T Mall Respectfully, good for the Executive that Negotiated the Deal I wish it was me. You seem to be looking for Fairness. The world is not a fair place (thank god it isn't, I and most of the people here would still be in jail, having been caught EVERY time w committed a crime) The complaining about what someone else makes really does prove Mr. Corolla's point.
The "Parasites in the Park" have to Date cost the municipalities they are in 100s of millions of dollars. (not a few hundred thousand) Boston alone in excess 18 million. I can't speak to the Canadian losses here in the US it is rapidly approaching a billion dollars. They offer no solution only on going whining about it isn't fair.You want fair I suggest a well monitored sandbox. While I agree the best answer is that getting government out of all businesses and that includes subsidies as well as getting out of what people get paid. My message to the "Parasites in the Park" Is go accomplish something , if you have a solution present it, work to get support for it ,and get it voted on. Get out of the pockets of those of us who go to work every day,and stop crushing the livelihood of the small businesses around your infestation. By the way I have never called them Hippies. The Hippies I knew in the early 70s at least had some level of conviction weren't frightened by hard work and were willing to accept responsibility for both the benefits and consequences of their actions. The Parasites in the Park whine if they get Pepper sprayed, or arrested. They claim to use civil disobedience as a means of free speech but don't want to accept the consequence of their actions. They are privileged Parasites and nothing More!
Since my core beliefs are libertarian, I believe the Government is a Necessary Evil always Necessary, and Always EVIL.

Homeslice · 12-04-2011, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by nhgunnut

T Mall Respectfully, good for the Executive that Negotiated the Deal I wish it was me.

So you'd be OK with giving 25 million of taxpayer money, if you knew that 4 million of it was being spent on bonuses to 2 executives who weren't good enough to make the company turn a profit?

shmike · 12-05-2011, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice

So you'd be OK with giving 25 million of taxpayer money, if you knew that 4 million of it was being spent on bonuses to 2 executives who weren't good enough to make the company turn a profit?

I guarantee you that the payroll is far larger than $4 million. In fact, without even knowing the company, I'd bet it is well over $8 million.

Since you guys are so for withholding pay, how far down the chain does your anger go?

I mean, if the regular workers aren't good enough to help the company turn a profit and they cost over 1/2 of payroll , shouldn't their wages be cut too?

BTW, the company IS making a profit, per Tmall's post.

Tmall · 12-06-2011, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by shmike

I guarantee you that the payroll is far larger than $4 million. In fact, without even knowing the company, I'd bet it is well over $8 million.

Since you guys are so for withholding pay, how far down the chain does your anger go?

I mean, if the regular workers aren't good enough to help the company turn a profit and they cost over 1/2 of payroll , shouldn't their wages be cut too?

BTW, the company IS making a profit, per Tmall's post.

If the company were turning an actual viable profit, they wouldn't need 25 million dollars would they?

shmike · 12-06-2011, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Tmall

If the company were turning an actual viable profit, they wouldn't need 25 million dollars would they?

You didn't say that they NEEDED it.

In fact, you said they were turning a profit and threatened to leave, so the government is offering them money to stay.

If another town wants to attract them and is offering $15 million to move there and employ 1000 people in their town, should they stay put or present the offer to their current municipality and look for a counter offer?

If you read gunnut's post properly, the only way to avoid this is to get government out of business, entirely.

nhgunnut · 12-04-2011, 10:12 AM

T Mall Respectfully, good for the Executive that Negotiated the Deal I wish it was me. You seem to be looking for Fairness. The world is not a fair place (thank god it isn't, I and most of the people here would still be in jail, having been caught EVERY time w committed a crime) The complaining about what someone else makes really does prove Mr. Corolla's point.
The "Parasites in the Park" have to Date cost the municipalities they are in 100s of millions of dollars. (not a few hundred thousand) Boston alone in excess 18 million. I can't speak to the Canadian losses here in the US it is rapidly approaching a billion dollars. They offer no solution only on going whining about it isn't fair.You want fair I suggest a well monitored sandbox. While I agree the best answer is that getting government out of all businesses and that includes subsidies as well as getting out of what people get paid. My message to the "Parasites in the Park" Is go accomplish something , if you have a solution present it, work to get support for it ,and get it voted on. Get out of the pockets of those of us who go to work every day,and stop crushing the livelihood of the small businesses around your infestation. By the way I have never called them Hippies. The Hippies I knew in the early 70s at least had some level of conviction weren't frightened by hard work and were willing to accept responsibility for both the benefits and consequences of their actions. The Parasites in the Park whine if they get Pepper sprayed, or arrested. They claim to use civil disobedience as a means of free speech but don't want to accept the consequence of their actions. They are privileged Parasites and nothing More!
Since my core beliefs are libertarian, I believe the Government is a Necessary Evil always Necessary, and Always EVIL.

Captain Morgan · 12-04-2011, 11:41 AM

I have to agree with nh. The OWSers are complaining to the wrong group. The corporations are simply taking advantage of the government's idiocy. All these people should be camped out on the steps of congress and at the homes of congressmen and senators, not at Wall Street. Government is the main problem due to their constant spending and constant bailouts. You want a solution? EVERYBODY needs to write letters to their congress persons and senators and tell them that if they don't get spending under control, they will ALL be voted out of office, regardless of their role, their party, or their voting records. And by getting spending under control, I mean to actually spend less than is earned, not create additional taxes to bring in more money just so they can match their insane spending. Social Security and Medicare need to be overhauled. All ridiculous government programs need to be cut or eliminated. Obviously, there will be some debate on what is considered ridiculous, but we all need to tell politicians that if this doesn't stop, they will ALL lose their jobs. Occupiers aren't saying that at all, they're just bitching about the amount of money corporations make. If they want to make a difference, they need to take their fight to Washington, not Wall Street.

12-04-2011, 08:28 AM	#4
nhgunnut gun totin redneck Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South West New Hampshire Moto: turbo busa 999 Duc Goldwing & Victory Posts: 1,130	T Mall Respectfully, good for the Executive that Negotiated the Deal I wish it was me. You seem to be looking for Fairness. The world is not a fair place (thank god it isn't, I and most of the people here would still be in jail, having been caught EVERY time w committed a crime) The complaining about what someone else makes really does prove Mr. Corolla's point. The "Parasites in the Park" have to Date cost the municipalities they are in 100s of millions of dollars. (not a few hundred thousand) Boston alone in excess 18 million. I can't speak to the Canadian losses here in the US it is rapidly approaching a billion dollars. They offer no solution only on going whining about it isn't fair.You want fair I suggest a well monitored sandbox. While I agree the best answer is that getting government out of all businesses and that includes subsidies as well as getting out of what people get paid. My message to the "Parasites in the Park" Is go accomplish something , if you have a solution present it, work to get support for it ,and get it voted on. Get out of the pockets of those of us who go to work every day,and stop crushing the livelihood of the small businesses around your infestation. By the way I have never called them Hippies. The Hippies I knew in the early 70s at least had some level of conviction weren't frightened by hard work and were willing to accept responsibility for both the benefits and consequences of their actions. The Parasites in the Park whine if they get Pepper sprayed, or arrested. They claim to use civil disobedience as a means of free speech but don't want to accept the consequence of their actions. They are privileged Parasites and nothing More! Since my core beliefs are libertarian, I believe the Government is a Necessary Evil always Necessary, and Always EVIL. __________________ Evolution requires a body count, Count or be Counted!

12-04-2011, 10:12 AM	#9
nhgunnut gun totin redneck Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South West New Hampshire Moto: turbo busa 999 Duc Goldwing & Victory Posts: 1,130	T Mall Respectfully, good for the Executive that Negotiated the Deal I wish it was me. You seem to be looking for Fairness. The world is not a fair place (thank god it isn't, I and most of the people here would still be in jail, having been caught EVERY time w committed a crime) The complaining about what someone else makes really does prove Mr. Corolla's point. The "Parasites in the Park" have to Date cost the municipalities they are in 100s of millions of dollars. (not a few hundred thousand) Boston alone in excess 18 million. I can't speak to the Canadian losses here in the US it is rapidly approaching a billion dollars. They offer no solution only on going whining about it isn't fair.You want fair I suggest a well monitored sandbox. While I agree the best answer is that getting government out of all businesses and that includes subsidies as well as getting out of what people get paid. My message to the "Parasites in the Park" Is go accomplish something , if you have a solution present it, work to get support for it ,and get it voted on. Get out of the pockets of those of us who go to work every day,and stop crushing the livelihood of the small businesses around your infestation. By the way I have never called them Hippies. The Hippies I knew in the early 70s at least had some level of conviction weren't frightened by hard work and were willing to accept responsibility for both the benefits and consequences of their actions. The Parasites in the Park whine if they get Pepper sprayed, or arrested. They claim to use civil disobedience as a means of free speech but don't want to accept the consequence of their actions. They are privileged Parasites and nothing More! Since my core beliefs are libertarian, I believe the Government is a Necessary Evil always Necessary, and Always EVIL. __________________ Evolution requires a body count, Count or be Counted!

12-03-2011, 08:04 PM	#2
Tmall Aspiring Rapper Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Halifax, NS Moto: '12 CB1000R Posts: 3,569	Bowater Jersey paper company just paid two executives 4 million in bonuses in NS. They've threatened to shutdown the mill which directly supplies 1000 jobs to my area. They're doing this because they're not making enough profit. Our idiot government is giving them 25 million to stay open. 25 million to a company that can afford to pay 4 million in bonuses... in all honesty, they'll likely shutdown anyway. But, THEY will be 25 million richer on top of the tax breaks and reduced power rates the've been granted to stay open. They'll just keep fleecing us and you until we're all bled dry. But you're worried that some dirty hippies are costing cities a few hundred thousand dollars. You've definitely bought into what you're being sold. Hopefully there can be some reform to stop things like this from happening. Nobody is saying that the dirty hippies deserve a mansion and a Porsche. What they are saying is that corporations shouldn't be earning billions of dollars on the backs of your people. They're saying a CEO should not make more in a day than an average employe of his makes in a year when they're running their companies into the ground to squeeze every last dollar from people who have to work two jobs to support their deadbeat exwives with child support. You seem to be worried that they'll get a piece of your pie. But honestly, your pie isn't that great. Nobody even wants it. They just want a fair chance at being able to accomplish a living and a life without working a 70 hour week and paying down debt for the next 20 years to pay for an education.

12-04-2011, 01:41 AM	#3
Amber Lamps Moto GP Star Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 14,556	Whoa now.... Who has forced these kids to take out all these loans? Maybe you shouldn't go to college if you can't afford it. Nobody that's who. Besides, when I hear that a college football coach gets paid several million a year.... I understand that a ceo makes a ton of money a year, and maybe more than you think they should be but who gets to set their wages? I want to be able to make as much money as my talent and drive will allow without some government agency setting the limit. Or do you think that they will just stop at ceos? Maybe I shouldn't be able to make over $70, 000 a year.... Maybe everyone should get the same rewards regardless of their talent or effort... Maybe the welfare rat with 15 kids should have a new car in the garage.... I just bought a new one.... That's not fair is it?

12-04-2011, 11:41 AM	#10
Captain Morgan Let's do another U-turn Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Indiana Moto: 2009 V-Strom Posts: 3,816	I have to agree with nh. The OWSers are complaining to the wrong group. The corporations are simply taking advantage of the government's idiocy. All these people should be camped out on the steps of congress and at the homes of congressmen and senators, not at Wall Street. Government is the main problem due to their constant spending and constant bailouts. You want a solution? EVERYBODY needs to write letters to their congress persons and senators and tell them that if they don't get spending under control, they will ALL be voted out of office, regardless of their role, their party, or their voting records. And by getting spending under control, I mean to actually spend less than is earned, not create additional taxes to bring in more money just so they can match their insane spending. Social Security and Medicare need to be overhauled. All ridiculous government programs need to be cut or eliminated. Obviously, there will be some debate on what is considered ridiculous, but we all need to tell politicians that if this doesn't stop, they will ALL lose their jobs. Occupiers aren't saying that at all, they're just bitching about the amount of money corporations make. If they want to make a difference, they need to take their fight to Washington, not Wall Street.