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Old 06-22-2011, 05:38 PM   #1
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LOL @ the claim that illegal immigrants are "necessary".

Make welfare and panhandling less lucrative than working in the fields, and real Americans will start taking those jobs again.
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Old 06-22-2011, 06:32 PM   #2
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Cut the entitlement programs and there will be people out picking crops. How can someone draw unemployment checks for up to 99 weeks?
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Old 06-22-2011, 08:41 PM   #3
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Cut the entitlement programs and there will be people out picking crops. How can someone draw unemployment checks for up to 99 weeks?
Typically cuz they refuse to move or change careers
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Old 06-22-2011, 10:25 PM   #4
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If incarceration isn't working, change the system. As of right now, you have a whole heaping shit pile of incarcerated people who will never repeat offend because they did not enjoy being locked up like rats.

The minute you let your government balance the books off of your inmates is the day you see a much larger percentage of your population in prison..
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If incarceration isn't working, change the system. As of right now, you have a whole heaping shit pile of incarcerated people who will never repeat offend because they did not enjoy being locked up like rats.

The minute you let your government balance the books off of your inmates is the day you see a much larger percentage of your population in prison..
For some reason simple incarceration isn't as effective in the US, as a deterrent to recidivism, as it is in Canada. It might have to do with the nature of the offences that they're putting people away for, minimum sentencing guidelines, or something else completely. Makes me sooooo glad that our Conservative government seems to think that we need American style sentencing reforms
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Old 06-23-2011, 09:07 AM   #6
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If incarceration isn't working, change the system. As of right now, you have a whole heaping shit pile of incarcerated people who will never repeat offend because they did not enjoy being locked up like rats.

The minute you let your government balance the books off of your inmates is the day you see a much larger percentage of your population in prison..
Right, because we already have the lowest prison populations per capita in the world...

I am offering a change in the system. Instead of letting these people sit around all day, doing nothing, make them productive. Instill a work ethic... something they are obviously lacking.
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Old 06-23-2011, 01:42 PM   #7
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Right, because we already have the lowest prison populations per capita in the world...

I am offering a change in the system. Instead of letting these people sit around all day, doing nothing, make them productive. Instill a work ethic... something they are obviously lacking.
Shooting every one of them is a change as well. It doesn't mean it's a change for the better. They're sitting around all day caged up. That's their punishment.

How about you just stop sending people to prison and force them to work? If all you care about is balancing the books, you'll save money on both ends..
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Old 06-23-2011, 01:52 PM   #8
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Shooting every one of them is a change as well. It doesn't mean it's a change for the better. They're sitting around all day caged up. That's their punishment.

How about you just stop sending people to prison and force them to work? If all you care about is balancing the books, you'll save money on both ends..
I'm a big fan of that as well.
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Old 06-23-2011, 02:17 PM   #9
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I am offering a change in the system.
No you're not. You're just "gaming" the system.

You're just talking about taking advantage of prisoners, many of whom shouldn't even be there, victims of this absurd war on drugs.
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Old 06-23-2011, 02:32 PM   #10
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No you're not. You're just "gaming" the system.

You're just talking about taking advantage of prisoners, many of whom shouldn't even be there, victims of this absurd war on drugs.
Shouldn't be there? You mean they didn't break the law?
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