gov't intervention, thats whats for lunch today

[Homeslice]

Is this a federal inspector or state? If federal, that's BS and a waste of money IMO.

[pauldun170]

The More at Four Evaluation Team of the FPG Child Development Institute conducted the statewide evaluation of North Carolina's More at Four Pre-kindergarten Program during its operation from 2001-2011. More at Four was a state-funded pre-kindergarten program designed to prepare at-risk four-year-olds for success in school.

The More at Four Evaluation team at the FPG Child Development Institute served as the external evaluator for the North Carolina More at Four Program during its 10 years of operation. We gathered information each year to evaluate the program’s effectiveness and to provide data for program improvement.

Major research questions included:

Who was served by the More at Four Program?
What were the characteristics and quality of the services provided?
What were the outcomes of children attending these programs?
What factors were associated with better outcomes for children?
To what extent have there been changes over time?

The evaluation provided a "big-picture" look at the statewide program as a whole, and included varying data each year from a variety of sources. The types of evaluation information gathered included assessments of children's development, observations of classroom quality and curriculum implementation, and monthly reports of program services.

http://www.fpg.unc.edu/~mafeval/pages/publications.cfm

The More at Four Pre-Kindergarten Program is a high-quality pre-k program that serves children who are at
risk and prepares them for success in school. Pre-kindergarten is a research-proven strategy for school
readiness.
Children served by More at Four attend a full school day, full school year program that meets high-quality
state standards. The program is community based. It is integrated with other early childhood programs in the
community and administered at the county or regional level. Children participating in More at Four may be
served in classrooms in the public schools, licensed child care centers or Head Start programs.
The More at Four program is especially beneficial for those children most at risk of school failure. According to
independent evaluation findings by the FPG Child Development Institute, University of North Carolina at
Chapel Hill, children served by More at Four exhibit substantial growth in key areas including language,
literacy, math and social skills.

Eligibility
The program serves children who are four years old by August 31, will be entering kindergarten the following
year, and are at risk for poor school outcomes. Factors that put children at risk for poor school outcomes
include low income, limited English proficiency, identified disability, chronic health condition and
developmental or educational need.

The program is
community-based, voluntary, and designed to prepare at-risk four-year-olds in North Carolina for
success in school.

If this mother is so fucking upset then take her child out of this voluntary program established to help her and her child out.

[pauldun170]

So to summarize the story.

Mom packs a shitty lunch for her shitty kid and sends her off to retard school.
the retard school program was established because guilt ridden people with normal kids thought something needed to be done for all the stupid poor people who couldn't afford to send their kids off to therapists and were worried that all the little poor retard kids would make start rubbing off on the normal kids.

Win win where poor people could drop off their kid at a free babysitter that would also help them with school and make sure they get a good meal.

Person checking up on the school see's little girl with a crappy lunch and gives her an approved lunch. (poor people with their sugar drinks...)

Mother gets "Oh noes they diddant" and shoots gift horse in face.

FoxNews reports Obama sends political appointee to take little girls lunch and replace it with fried chicken prepared by Hillary Clinton who then sends a cleaning bill to mother.


Hilarity ensues


However...I'm still looking into this so this is just a draft summary

[Papa_Complex]

Originally Posted by pauldun170

So to summarize the story.

Mom packs a shitty lunch for her shitty kid and sends her off to retard school.
the retard school program was established because guilt ridden people with normal kids thought something needed to be done for all the stupid poor people who couldn't afford to send their kids off to therapists and were worried that all the little poor retard kids would make start rubbing off on the normal kids.

Win win where poor people could drop off their kid at a free babysitter that would also help them with school and make sure they get a good meal.

Person checking up on the school see's little girl with a crappy lunch and gives her an approved lunch. (poor people with their sugar drinks...)

Mother gets "Oh noes they diddant" and shoots gift horse in face.

FoxNews reports Obama sends political appointee to take little girls lunch and replace it with fried chicken prepared by Hillary Clinton who then sends a cleaning bill to mother.


Hilarity ensues


However...I'm still looking into this so this is just a draft summary

Sounds like a pretty good lunch, to me. When I was that age my lunch, on school days, frequently consisted of a bologna sandwich with mayo, on white bread, and a bowl of Lipton's chicken noodle soup (from powder mix).

Hell, these days no one can seem to decide if there are four food groups, five food groups, or a whole fucking pyramid. Let parents feed their kids.

[Lamnidae]

Originally Posted by Papa_Complex

Sounds like a pretty good lunch, to me. When I was that age my lunch, on school days, frequently consisted of a bologna sandwich with mayo, on white bread, and a bowl of Lipton's chicken noodle soup (from powder mix).

Hell, these days no one can seem to decide if there are four food groups, five food groups, or a whole fucking pyramid. Let parents feed their kids.

werd,

[pauldun170]

Currently trying to find how the on site assessor is considered a "Government employee"
http://ers.fpg.unc.edu/ers-people

From what I've read so far, an Assessor is someone who completes the training at the University and not affiliated with any state agency...unless we're going to call everyone who works directly or indirectly for or with a state university a government employee.

[EpyonXero]

Originally Posted by pauldun170

Currently trying to find how the on site assessor is considered a "Government employee"
http://ers.fpg.unc.edu/ers-people

From what I've read so far, an Assessor is someone who completes the training at the University and not affiliated with any state agency...unless we're going to call everyone who works directly or indirectly for or with a state university a government employee.

From what I read these are not state employees but contractors.

The way I see it is some checklister had an empty "Vegetable" line on her form that needed a check mark so she ordered the kid some vegetables o she could finish her job. Since the meals are all pre-portioned you cant just order a cup of green beans so she got a full meal. They put it in front of a 4-year old and told her to eat the green beans so of course she ate the chicken nuggets. It seems like kids who bring their lunch should be exempt from these rules but other than that I dont see the big deal.

[pauldun170]

Anyone want to head over to the University and take the training?
http://www.ersi.info/training_live.html
http://www.ersi.info/inpractice.html

[Lamnidae]

.... on the fence now -- mainly because of shitty overall reporting.


But overall I don't think that was a super-bad lunch the mom packed for her kid -- beats the hell outta some of the shit I had when I was growing up.

[Lamnidae]

http://www.fayobserver.com/articles/...3?sac=fo.local

So now they're saying it was a mix-up and blame it on the kid --- that she didn't understand or "misinterpreted" what was being instructed? No kidding... You don't say.... the kid's 4 years old.