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Old 08-31-2011, 01:51 PM   #1
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What he said. We just went through this recently and when looking at a dealership that had an X5 and RR on the lot, even the dealer said he would only sell the RR under duress if someone REALLY wanted it. He had absolutely nothing good to say about reliability.

And I'm with you on maintenance, I don't mind shelling out a few bucks here and there to maintain a car I enjoy. But if that car starts stranding the family all over the place with complicated issues no shadetree mechanic has a shot of diagnosing, well...

With the X5, I would suggest avoiding the 1st gen (thru 2006). Second gen is supposed to be a lot more reliable. We got a ridiculous deal on a 2007 4.8i loaded to the gills with less than 24k on it. Love it so far. Based on feedback from friends we went for the extended warranty, but not the BMW-hyped "maintenance plan". Good peace of mind, considering how quickly repairs add up for anything related to the iDrive system.

Oddly enough, I found the car on eBay in Delaware. Contacted the seller and it turns out we graduated from the same high school in Michigan (8 years apart) and grew up on the same street a few miles away. And he's dating the sister of a girl I've known since I was 5 years old. I now live in NC, and he in PA... small, small world.
Which high school? I went to Pioneer (Ann Arbor) and lived in Greensboro briefly
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Old 08-31-2011, 04:59 PM   #2
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Which high school? I went to Pioneer (Ann Arbor) and lived in Greensboro briefly
Reeths-Puffer, in Muskegon. It was a reasonably large HS, our graduating class was ~300, but still such a coincidence to meet via ebay for a vehicle sale. It's always nice to see others escape that area and make something of themselves though. Muskegon is still a beautiful place to visit, but I am glad I didn't stay there after HS.

I only visited Ann Arbor once or twice and don't remember much about it. How did you like it there? Family still there?
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Old 08-31-2011, 07:23 PM   #3
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As far as reliability I only look at that so much. There isn't one car that has been mass produced that haven't had a break down. There also isn't one that has had 100% junk for a whole model. So you could go buy the worst car out there for reliability and not have a problem at all.

Going by Carpoint for the for reliability these are the good years...

Range Rover 2005 2007 2008. 2006 was ok. A few reported problems with that one.

X5 has a few issues including a $1000 suspension problem.

Cayenne No data

Benz M Class was good in 2005 and 2008.

Grand Cherokee good from 2006 and 2008

Tahoe Good in 2008

Explorer Good 2006-2008

Hummer H2 2007-2008

FX 2003-2008

QX56 2004-2007

RX330 2004-2008

Murano 2004 and 2006

Volkswagen Touareg 2005-2007

My 2004 Tribute only list a small problem

A periodic problem with this vehicle is failure of the rear Shock Absorbers. The cost to repair the rear Shock Absorbers is estimated at $110.00 for parts and $58.50 for labor. All prices are estimates based on $65.00 per flat rate hour and do not include diagnostic time or any sales tax..

I haven't had this issue yet but had a few others. Some were just normal wear items going out or being replaced with larger items making those repair bills a bitch.

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Stay FAR FAR away from any Range Rover out of warranty.
Same goes for VW and Porche twins.

The BMW X5 will be hit or miss in that price range.

The Expedition is something you buy new, at a significant discount and for a specialized purpose (Towing+packed to the gills). Meaning ALL of the above and you need something under warranty. Otherwise a used GMC\Chevy is a better bet IF you are fine with previous generation GM interiors.

What about Infiniti FX45 or QX56?
FX45 I can't tell if its good looking or ugly. Not sure how I feel about that one.

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An old-school Range Rover is absolutely pimp........I love its sharp-edged lines.

But, like any European vehicle, even if you do your own repairs, the parts costs will kill you. It's always silly shit like power window regulators ($400 each), airbag sensors, climate control units, control arm bushings, burned-out connectors, bad grounds somewhere, faulty water pumps because they used a silly plastic impeller instead of a metal one, etc.

I would go Infiniti or Nissan.

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