Jail for sex with widow

[Racerboy]

The guy cheated on his own wife, bottom line. That was his first mistake. There was no broken trust with the dead Marine. Because she was married to a Marine who died, does that make her off limits to ever have sex again? Obviously, she was congincent of her own actions as she informed someone of what had happened. I don't feel she was raped. Yes, he took advantage of her, but that in an of itself is not crime.

His second mistake was telling his wife and command. What an idiot. If you're going to be a cheater, you need to carry out the innocence plea to the grave.

[fatbuckRTO]

Originally Posted by Trip

It still doesn't make any sense to me, outdated morality laws FTL

Maybe, but he knew the law.

[azoomm]

Originally Posted by Racerboy

The guy cheated on his own wife, bottom line. That was his first mistake. There was no broken trust with the dead Marine. Because she was married to a Marine who died, does that make her off limits to ever have sex again? Obviously, she was congincent of her own actions as she informed someone of what had happened. I don't feel she was raped. Yes, he took advantage of her, but that in an of itself is not crime.

His second mistake was telling his wife and command. What an idiot. If you're going to be a cheater, you need to carry out the innocence plea to the grave.

He didn't rape her. That charge never came up - we just added it to the discussion as a sidenote.

As a Marine he should have expected to be held to a higher standard. That's exactly what happened here - and should happen more often. There are ramifications for your actions. I wish more people were held accountable rather than just given a hug and a cookie because they feel bad...

[Rider]

Originally Posted by Racerboy

If you're going to be a cheater, you need to carry out the innocence plea to the grave.

Is this advice coming from past experience?

[Racerboy]

Nope...just have seen it happen in the past from many people and the best option to NOT cheating is to NEVER ADMIT IT

[the chi]

My first thought was that HE was married, HH's post confirms it.

What he did was wrong, I agree, but it was also wrong of the widow. She was grieving and on meds, meds that CLEARLY state combining with alcohol is a bad idea. He should never have let himself or her get in that position.

I feel bad for HIS WIFE. She's the ultimate victim here.

[Archren]

Originally Posted by Trip

It still doesn't make any sense to me, outdated morality laws FTL

Maybe outdated, but as Fatbuck said.. it's still a law, and a well-known one to anyone (especially NCOs) in the military.

Personally.. given how much this shit happens (TDY/Deployment romances.. "what happens on TDY/Deployment stays.." etc.), I can definitely see where it has it's place in the military. You have to realize there are a lot of fools that really don't have their head in the right place. My ex was one of them. People who are old enough to know better but don't or who simply don't care..

This particular case is no where NEAR some of the cases I dealt with when I was in JAG years ago (or even some of the people - or more appropriately, whores/man-whores - I've known in my time in the Army), in the case of Recruiting, they tend to be very strict on perception/image, so it follows that they chose to make an example of this particular individual.

[fatbuckRTO]

Originally Posted by The Chi

I feel bad for HIS WIFE. She's the ultimate victim here.

I'm muthafuckin' gay.

I mean...

Plus muthafuckin' one.

[Trip]

Originally Posted by fatbuckRTO

Maybe, but he knew the law.

the law needs to be challenged to be updated.

[Archren]

Originally Posted by The Chi

My first thought was that HE was married, HH's post confirms it.

What he did was wrong, I agree, but it was also wrong of the widow. She was grieving and on meds, meds that CLEARLY state combining with alcohol is a bad idea. He should never have let himself or her get in that position.

I feel bad for HIS WIFE. She's the ultimate victim here.

Hugely in agreement here... both parties should have known better. But for whatever reason, they walked down that path anyway. I can understand why she might have said "fuck it" in her mind and drank while on meds.. but that doesn't make it right.

I'm not usually an advocate of moral policing, but in the military it's a different animal.. these are people who are supposed to be watching your back in combat (or supporting your family while you're deployed).. if they aren't trustworthy (or aren't capable of good judgement), they needn't be in this profession. But that's just my opinion...