$447 bil

[shmike]

Originally Posted by Kaneman

You guys understand that unemployment runs out right? Its not a lifetime of riches and fortunes....

You understand that it has stretched from about 6 months to almost 2 years right?

And now they want to make it 3 years?

It may not be a lifetime, but it's a hell of a lot longer than it used to be.

[Kaneman]

Originally Posted by RACER X

how long should somebody be unemployed from their "career" 1-2-3yrs?

when should they change careers or "go get a job any job" ?

There's no such thing as "go get any job." It is very easy to be overqualified for menial jobs if you've had a decent career leading up to the layoffs.

The U.S. can easily afford to take care of citizens who've fallen on hard times and don't necessarily want to end up homeless. Yes, there are those who will take advantage of the system, but it does not negate the need to take care of our own.

[Corey]

Originally Posted by Kaneman

There's no such thing as "go get any job." It is very easy to be overqualified for menial jobs if you've had a decent career leading up to the layoffs.

The U.S. can easily afford to take care of citizens who've fallen on hard times and don't necessarily want to end up homeless. Yes, there are those who will take advantage of the system, but it does not negate the need to take care of our own.

That's horseshit. The problem is people made a decision about what job is "beneath" them and don't apply for it. Does it suck to go from a career to a shit job? Fuck yes it does, but we can't just let people collect unemployment checks because they don't want to be a ditch digger.

Unemployment is fucking a ridiculous waste of money. It assists some people, but far too many people know how to abuse the fuck out of the system and use it to avoid working for as long as possible because it makes it way too easy for people to be sedentary. The money would be better off going to job stimulus programs and getting people who are unemployed trained into skill sets that would broaden their appeal to employers. Instead, we coddle these fucking idiots and promote laziness and poor work ethic.

[RACER X]

Originally Posted by Kaneman

There's no such thing as "go get any job." It is very easy to be overqualified for menial jobs if you've had a decent career leading up to the layoffs.

The U.S. can easily afford to take care of citizens who've fallen on hard times and don't necessarily want to end up homeless. Yes, there are those who will take advantage of the system, but it does not negate the need to take care of our own.

so what time frame should we give somebody?

1-2-3-4-5-6 ? yrs?

[Homeslice]

Originally Posted by RACER X

how long should somebody be unemployed from their "career" 1-2-3yrs?

when should they change careers or "go get a job any job" ?

Exactly. No matter how "overqualified" someone is, they could still get a job at Barnes & Noble or Trader Joes if they needed to.

Or, they could move to a different city, or re-train for a different career. Oh but wait, that would require some savings.......Can't have that.

[Homeslice]

Originally Posted by Smittie61984

Homeslice:
The Republicans don't applaud becuase they know any money for education is not meant for the kids. It is meant for the teachers and their unions but more importantly vote buying.

So it's not possible that some of the money could be used to actually renovate the schools and buy new equipment?

Oh, and even if the money went towards teacher salaries, that's not a bad thing IF their credentials & performance are monitored. Right now, the best & brightest don't want to be teachers because the salaries suck.

[Kaneman]

Originally Posted by Corey

That's horseshit. The problem is people made a decision about what job is "beneath" them and don't apply for it.

So if you have a family with 3 kids, grocery bills and a mortgage you're supposed to take an $8.00 an hour job at McDonalds and some how be able to pay those bills. Yes, that sounds like an awesome plan. A "job" is not a magic cure all that ensures all the family's or individual's needs are met.

Originally Posted by RACER X

so what time frame should we give somebody?

1-2-3-4-5-6 ? yrs?

The current time frames they use are excellent.

[RACER X]

Originally Posted by Kaneman

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The current time frames they use are excellent.

i've pointed out 2 people in the last yr to learn comp. drafting, both took about 4 mos of classes, got jobs in 1 mos. lowest was $15/hr quickly to $18 other was $20/hr........3 yrs...........pfft!

[Kaneman]

Originally Posted by RACER X

i've pointed out 2 people in the last yr to learn comp. drafting, both took about 4 mos of classes, got jobs in 1 mos. lowest was $15/hr quickly to $18 other was $20/hr........3 yrs...........pfft!

That's awesome. You're a good friend to have around! Not sure where you're getting the 3 years estimate.

[pauldun170]

Stocks fell for a second day and German two-year yields slid to a record amid escalating concern about Greece’s debt crisis and speculation Congress won’t pass President Barack Obama’s plan to boost the economy.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-0...ma-speech.html