sportbikers crash alot

[101lifts2]

Originally Posted by RACER X

883 = like $9k i think.

have you seen the prices of bikes lately, 600SS are topping $10k

I just bought my 09 ZX6R for 7899 OTD in Jan 2010.

[Particle Man]

Originally Posted by RACER X

883 = like $9k i think.

have you seen the prices of bikes lately, 600SS are topping $10k

I see that the GSXR 600 retails for $10,399 new but you can pick up a used one for half that (or better). Hell, I saw this when I walked into Oneida Suzuki the other day to pick up an oil filter:

http://www.oneidasuzuki.com/store/pa...ski-ninja.html

07 ZX6R for $6,400 with under 2,600 miles on the clock.

[karl_1052]

Originally Posted by Particle Man

I'd hazard a somewhat educated 'guess' that you'll find the same age banded stats for cars.

And, uh, duh that sportbikes are in the higher % - what 21 year old can afford a brand new freakin' Harley (or would want to when they can get a brand new sportbike for a fraction of the cost)? I'd wager that if Harley's were cheaper you'd see just as many crashes in that age band with Harleys. Kids like to go fast - that ain't rocket science.

don't forget fast, cheap cars(mustang, LS1 Fbodies, etc). I would bet the same stats would apply there too.

[OTB]

Originally Posted by RACER X

CA and FLA are the highest # of biker deaths, TX #3

"In 2008, the under age 20 age group had the largest increase in motorcycle fatalities (up 57% from 13 in 2007 to 30 in 2008 with the second highest increase seen in the over age 59 age group which increased 44% percent from 32 in 2007 to 57 in 2008.** "

"Super sport motorcycles, defined as consumer versions of the motorcycles used by factory racing teams, account for 14% of the registered motorcycles in California, yet the 211 super sport drivers and passengers killed in 2008 accounted for 38% of the 560 motorcyclists killed in California.

** Between 2002-08, 44% of Super Sport motorcycles that were fatally crashed were less than a year old, compared to 37% Other Sport, 28% Cruiser, and, 34% Touring motorcycles.
** Between 2002-08, 44% of Super Sport riders killed were not properly licensed, compared to 32% Other Sport, 24% Cruisers and 19% Touring motorcycles.
** Between 2002-08, 86% of Super Sport motorcycle fatal crashes were “speed related”, compared to 57% Other Sport, 40% Cruisers, and 39% Touring motorcycles
** Between 2002-08, 66% of Super Sport motorcycle operators killed were between age 21-34.** "

http://www.startriding.com/?p=522

This is all news how?

How many of you with sport bikes for sale have dealt with young and/or unlicensed first-time riders looking to buy your slightly used 130hp superbike; no training, no MSF, no experience; just looking to buy the fastest bike they can afford and GO?

I visit a lot of bike shops, and everyone has brand-new sportbikes with almost 0 miles on them sitting in the service dept that were crashed by new riders who hadn't made it a mile before crashing....

I know there is a certain contingent that advocate that a full-on sportbike is a good first bike....

....looks like not so much, on the whole.....

[tommymac]

Originally Posted by OTB

This is all news how?

How many of you with sport bikes for sale have dealt with young and/or unlicensed first-time riders looking to buy your slightly used 130hp superbike; no training, no MSF, no experience; just looking to buy the fastest bike they can afford and GO?

I visit a lot of bike shops, and everyone has brand-new sportbikes with almost 0 miles on them sitting in the service dept that were crashed by new riders who hadn't made it a mile before crashing....

I know there is a certain contingent that advocate that a full-on sportbike is a good first bike....

....looks like not so much, on the whole.....

Some of us were those guys at one point too. Another thing to add is how fast things have advanced with technology on these bikes and how you can get yourself in more trouble now than on a 600 from the 90's.

I am fine with those kids crashing those bikes too since it makes more cheaper track bikes available

[RACER X]

Originally Posted by OTB

This is all news how?

:

for me this is the first time i've seen a stat. that points out sportbikes specifically. usually it's age, and while a minority young guys do ride cruisers.

[Homeslice]

The most surprising number is how many aren't licensed. I mean really, how hard is it to take the MSF or a DMV riding test? These dudes are either lazy, cheap, or impatient. Well scratch cheap, cuz they go out and buy a $600 exhaust, lol.

[pauldun170]

Lets see..
Most of em young?
A lot of em unlicensed?
A lot of em just about year on the road/

Yup
Sportbikes are to blame.

[tommymac]

Originally Posted by pauldun170

Lets see..
Most of em young?
A lot of em unlicensed?
A lot of em just about year on the road/

Yup
Sportbikes are to blame.

Sounds like just another night on DPA

[pauldun170]

Originally Posted by tommymac

Sounds like just another night on DPA

I think the last time I went to DPA during peak deuschebag hours was 1999.
My personal deuschebagging era was in the 92-95 time frame. Wasn't a parker or a cruiser. Just your average shitbox driver looking for drivers of other shitboxes to race.
After the SCPD started cracking down in 95 I stopped going there. Anytime after that it was just outta of convenience to get to and from the south and north shore if it made sense to use DPA.

Friends of ours used to live in Deer Park and and a lot has changed. I do see that the "Bro patrols" still make stopping at that 7-11's an uncorfortable experience.