Cameras are the new guns

[dubbs]

Now I know that if you're in a public place there is no expectation of privacy.. But if you ask not to be photo/video graphed then cop or normal citizen it should then be against the law to continue to do so.. Correct?

[pdog]

Cops are not normal citizens. They have the authority to detain you, etc. With that authority comes the expectation that they have less rights in other areas, namely privacy while on duty.

Authority + Secrecy = Abuse

Originally Posted by dubbs

Now I know that if you're in a public place there is no expectation of privacy.. But if you ask not to be photo/video graphed then cop or normal citizen it should then be against the law to continue to do so.. Correct?

[EpyonXero]

Can you ask them not to video tape you on a traffic stop or with the speed/red light cameras? Of course not.

[dubbs]

Originally Posted by EpyonXero

Can you ask them not to video tape you on a traffic stop or with the speed/red light cameras? Of course not.

Cops are above the law.. Ever see a cop do the speed limit?

Ever see a cop driving while talking on a cell phone?

Now they want to tape you when you can't tape them..

Seems like business as usual.

[Homeslice]

The interview and reference check for cops should be as thorough as the CIA's, IMO.

Except replace the time spent checking political & terrorist ties, and put it towards checking his emotional control, maturity, communication and leadership skills.

[Kaneman]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

The interview and reference check for cops should be as thorough as the CIA's, IMO.

Except replace the time spent checking political & terrorist ties, and put it towards checking his emotional control, maturity, communication and leadership skills.

I'm thinking another step that may be beneficial to the public would be to set a higher age limit on becoming a cop, or placing more restrictions on younger cops.

Maybe you can't join the force until you're 28 and can't roll alone until you have a couple years experience. Something to that effect anyway.

[Homeslice]

I'm thinking another step that may be beneficial to the public would be to set a higher age limit on becoming a cop, or placing more restrictions on younger cops.

Maybe you can't join the force until you're 28 and can't roll alone until you have a couple years experience. Something to that effect anyway.

Perhaps, but a lot of 22 year olds are more mature than 28 year olds. Thus the need for extensive interviews & reference checks. Maybe some role playing too. And more credit given to leadership experience, extraciricular activities, and public-facing jobs. Not just "yo I got a criminal justice degree and spit some game in my interview"

[pauldun170]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

Perhaps, but a lot of 22 year olds are more mature than 28 year olds. Thus the need for extensive interviews & reference checks. Maybe some role playing too. And more credit given to leadership experience, extraciricular activities, and public-facing jobs. Not just "yo I got a criminal justice degree and spit some game in my interview"

We're getting a lot of vets on the force. They have leadership experience, maturity, extraciricular activities and many have done public facing jobs (In Iraq and Afghanistan)
I hate to say this but combat vets might not make good police officers.
A lot Iraq and Afghnaistan vets are getting preferential treatment during hiring season and I don't think a lot of em should be there. The atitudes and training are not appropriate for police officer in this country.

I think that if you integrate them slowly and NOT in batches you'll be fine as long as you have good veteran officers who can acclimate them to the job (this ain't Iraq and these aint Iraqis...you gotta take it down a notch and realize these are you neighbors).
If you get a group in and they are being mentored by other combat vets then they just resort to old habits and training.

and take those fucking sunglasses off...

[Smittie61984]

Originally Posted by Homeslice

Maybe some role playing too.

I keep thinking of Major Payne when he applied to become a cop and did some role playing.

In the video above the photographer had every right to record those cops. But no doubt he was looking for trouble and probably needs an ass stomping once a week that his father (or lack of) deprived him of as a kid.

Now if the woman in the car was holding a camera to the cops face, I'd probably be okay with the cop telling her to put the camera down (not off but down at least). Not really so sure how I feel on that one.

Illinois, Massachusetts, and Maryland are among the 12 states in which all parties must consent for a recording to be legal unless

I'm confused on this. Last year I went to Chicago with my GF for New Years and did some video recording and took pictures. Of course I got pictures of other people. Does that mean I have to have permission from all of the people in the pictures if I wanted to post the pictures? Or was that for court purposes only?

[101lifts2]

Another bullshit law....the only reason for this law passing is to prevent lawsuits, which for now, most states cannot afford.

It is all about money (devil).