what, no more strip clubs w/ govt' $, WTF!!!

[RACER X]

[askmrjesus]

"This legislation stops waste, fraud, and abuse within the welfare program," said Rep. Charles Boustany, Jr., a Louisiana Republican.

Although it may help curtail abuse, this legislation doesn't stop waste or fraud. It just helps people like Ed feel better about themselves when they call the fire dept to unlock their front doors.

If Welfare Bob gets $100 per week, it costs tax payers $100 per week, regardless of what Bob spends the money on.

JC

[EpyonXero]

Originally Posted by askmrjesus

"This legislation stops waste, fraud, and abuse within the welfare program," said Rep. Charles Boustany, Jr., a Louisiana Republican.

Although it may help curtail abuse, this legislation doesn't stop waste or fraud. It just helps people like Ed feel better about themselves when they call the fire dept to unlock their front doors.

If Welfare Bob gets $100 per week, it costs tax payers $100 per week, regardless of what Bob spends the money on.

JC

Yep. Plus the added cost of implementing a new vendor verification system and enforcing and updating it.

This is like the Florida welfare/drug test law. Only like 2% of recipients have failed the drug test and the state has a net loss on the program.

[askmrjesus]

Originally Posted by EpyonXero

Yep. Plus the added cost of implementing a new vendor verification system and enforcing and updating it.

This is like the Florida welfare/drug test law. Only like 2% of recipients have failed the drug test and the state has a net loss on the program.

Exactly. This bill will just increase our taxes.

I should amend my original post. For every $100 Bob gets, we probably spend $110, when you figure in the cost of administrating the welfare program.

If Rep. Charles Boustany, Jr. wants to save us money, he should spend more time figuring out a way to get people off of welfare in the first place, instead of demonizing the poor.

JC

[fatbuckRTO]

Originally Posted by askmrjesus

Exactly. This bill will just increase our taxes.

I should amend my original post. For every $100 Bob gets, we probably spend $110, when you figure in the cost of administrating the welfare program.

If Rep. Charles Boustany, Jr. wants to save us money, he should spend more time figuring out a way to get people off of welfare in the first place, instead of demonizing the poor.

JC

I believe the issue Mr. Boustany is trying to address is: if they have enough disposable cash to visit strip clubs with welfare money, what in the hell are they doing on welfare in the first place? Unfortunately, it doesn't appear to be a simple matter of removing from the program those who aren't really in need. I'm guessing the next best thing is to make it more difficult to abuse the program.

Placing restrictions on tax payer dollars isn't demonizing anyone, it's goddamn common sense. Seems to me we could do with a few more restrictions on tax payer dollars in this country.

[RACER X]

how long was it implemented? thought fla judge stopped the drug tessting

[Kaneman]

Goddamn don't they ever do anything worthwhile? (The govt)

Lets also make sure people who get welfare can't: watch TV, read books, take hot showers, eat nutritionally dense foods, wear clothing, surf the internet, surf the ocean, have pets or use soft toilet paper.

[fatbuckRTO]

Originally Posted by Kaneman

Goddamn don't they ever do anything worthwhile? (The govt)

Lets also make sure people who get welfare can't: watch TV, read books, take hot showers, eat nutritionally dense foods, wear clothing, surf the internet, surf the ocean, have pets or use soft toilet paper.

They are, of course, free to do any or all of those things. You are also free to pay for it for them. I don't want to.

Welfare exists, as I understand it, to provide for subsistance. It does not exist to provide TV, books, internet, surf boards, or pets. However, if someone is making enough off of welfare to visit strip clubs on welfare money, I'm assuming they would also be making enough to eat nutritionally dense foods, wear clothing, or use (reasonably) soft toilet paper. Assuming they chose to do that vice stuffing bills down g-strings.

I see absolutely no problem in taking reasonable precautions to prevent my tax dollars from funding young Tiffany's "college education." There are Pell Grants for that...

[pauldun170]

One day I was driving along and someone passed me on the double yellow.
I complained to a friend.
That friend told the story to someone else and the the person responded that someone could have been killed.
That person told the clerk at the deli that the road is dangerous and people drive crazy on the road all the time.
The deli clerk recalled the story of how 1 people died in a car accident on the road awhile back.
A person overhearing the story stated "I don't feel safe driving anymore especially with all the traffic. It would be so much better off everyone would be green and ride bicycles back and forth" so a letter to a legislator was written.
The following year the legislator announce a 50 million dollar project to re engineer the road, add red light cameras, a concrete center island, bike lanes and also widen the road to add additional lanes.

A local cop quickly looks up records for the road and noticed one drunk driving accident from 10 years ago and nothing else. He does recall the dirty look that guy gave him last year when he passed him on a double yellow rushing to get to work at the precinct.


Moral of the story is...I like looking at womans asses.

[pauldun170]

Couple of interesting points

“It’s an expensive thing to do. They’re going to re-program every ATM machine? You’re putting an expensive burden on local and state governments. What’s the real purpose? Is there a huge problem with people paying for lap dancing with TANF cards?,” said Democrat Rep. Jerrold Nadler who represents parts of Manhattan and Brooklyn, New York.

“Because a person cashes a check in a casino doesn’t mean they are going to use it in the casino. There’s no law that says that a person who cashes the check across the street at a bank can’t just do that and walk into a casino,” said Rep. Don Payne, a Democrat who represents Newark. N.J.

“I don’t think just because you’re on welfare that you should never drink a beer,” said Rep. Frank. “It’s impossible to enforce and it’s a violation of states rights,” Barney Frank said. “If you want to say people who are on welfare can’t have entertainment that’s one thing but why should they be able to go to a movie but not to a naked person dancing — I don’t make a moral distinction there,” Frank added.