When to slow down

[101lifts2]

Originally Posted by eBBs15

and I wasn't saying you were... I was just saying that domestics aren't on par with the imports in reliability... and there's still quite a gap imo... but I do think the imports are getting worse... dunno if domestics are getting better though

My brother bought a brand new 2005 Honda Accord EX with a V-6 Auto. The transmission failed at 70k as with many many other Honda automatics. Honda does NOT have reliable automatics.

Toyota had a lawsuit against them which claimed thier Sienna engines built up sludge prematurely (all under 40k). They also had engines fail due to this as well.

I've owned many many GM makes and not one left me stranded vs. a Honda that would not start.

Me thinks you have -0- data other than hear say to back up ur claims. Typical of people believing that anything from over the pond must be better.

[Mr Lefty]

Originally Posted by 101lifts2

My brother bought a brand new 2005 Honda Accord EX with a V-6 Auto. The transmission failed at 70k as with many many other Honda automatics. Honda does NOT have reliable automatics.

Toyota had a lawsuit against them which claimed thier Sienna engines built up sludge prematurely (all under 40k). They also had engines fail due to this as well.

I've owned many many GM makes and not one left me stranded vs. a Honda that would not start.

Me thinks you have -0- data other than hear say to back up ur claims. Typical of people believing that anything from over the pond must be better.

except for the 7 toyota trucks that I've had that all had over 150k... 5 had over 200k... and two over 500k. never had an issue with any other than my last one which I'm strongly believing was the fault of the dealership who did the maintenance.

I don't believe everything from overseas is better... fuck'n mitsubishi sucks. can't stand their shit vehicles... same with kia, hyundi.

for the record I've owned... 4 domestic vehicles... a GMC Jimmy, Chevy S10 Pickup, an S10 Blazer, and a GMC Sierra 2500. My parents have owned a Chevy Astro van, Ford Aerostar, Ford F150, International (shit can't remember the model but it was like a suburban) Chevy Suburban.

The Jimmy didn't cause me any issues other than going through two alternators... but I sold it to my parents cause I wanted a pickup... and they had nothing but issues.... a weld on the lower Right A arm braking, head gasket blowing, Transfer case going, transmission loosing 3rd gear randomly... and a few other electrical issues.

I could go through and list the laundry list of issues my parents had with all their vehicles... all with less than 100k on them.

mine well with the exception of the Jimmy... mine were all over 100k but under 120... and were deteriorating FAST.

of the Toyota Truck's I've owned... I've had to replace the timing chain on 4 of them (preventive maintenance) and 2 head gaskets... one at 220k... the other at 375k two different trucks.

I've never owned a honda... but there's a reason why they have the rep they do. I've know MANY people who have over 150K on their accord's, and civics... with no issues...

I know very few who've owned domestics with the same claim.

[Gas Man]

You speak of maintance and that brings up an interesting angle I didn't think of...

Maybe those peeps buying their little rice cars get all the service done at dealers cause they are light in their shorts. Hence the cars last longer with fewer problems.

The guys owning the domestics, do it themselves but much like many others are just dumb. Fuck it all up and therefor tuck their shit and go back to the dealer with problems/failures. Failures just like how they live their lives.

Then the few domestic owners, like myself, that know how to service a vechicle or two and get good use from their vechicles.

Hmmmm.... I may be onto something...

[marko138]

Originally Posted by TIGGER

Yea but as an adventure tourer....not so much.

That is a fact, jack.

[Mr Lefty]

Originally Posted by Gas Man

You speak of maintance and that brings up an interesting angle I didn't think of...

Maybe those peeps buying their little rice cars get all the service done at dealers cause they are light in their shorts. Hence the cars last longer with fewer problems.

The guys owning the domestics, do it themselves but much like many others are just dumb. Fuck it all up and therefor tuck their shit and go back to the dealer with problems/failures. Failures just like how they live their lives.

Then the few domestic owners, like myself, that know how to service a vechicle or two and get good use from their vechicles.

Hmmmm.... I may be onto something...

actually I did all the maintenance on all my toyota's after the first one I owned... (stupid easy to work on the 22r or 22re) worked on only one of my chevy's and my GMC. which intailed, 3 or 4 timing belts, 1 or 2 serpentine(on parents vehicles) belts, 3 hubs (wheeling got debris in them), 5 timing chains, 2 head gaskets, 4 cam's (performance upgrades) and a dozen or so tune ups.

all the vehicles I did my own oil and brake's... My last toyota ran perfect until I had the shop work on it... that's when the entire electrical system (alternator, cap, plugs, wires, battery, main fuse ect...) went out... funny timing


To be honest... if ford made a better truck... I'd buy the ranger... perfect size for me... but 1 don't want a new one... 2 use ones don't last from what I've seen.

[wildchild]

Originally Posted by eBBs15

. 2 use ones don't last from what I've seen.

that depends on the previous owner. If he bought a ranger because that was what he needed you'll be fine. If he bought a ranger because he couldn't afford a bigger truck and then overloaded the hell out of it, yeah it might not be any good.

[Rsv1000R]

I've had a number of late 60's-early 70's domestic that were running well into the 100,000 miles whe I got rid of them, Has 3 Chrysler 2.2's all made it to 100,000 with little to no problems when I got rid of them.

[Mr Lefty]

slow down? says who
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3Cu8...layer_embedded

[Trip]

this will totally be me.

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[Sixxxxer]

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