Resistance was futile....

[Dave]

Originally Posted by Trip

Uh, then why are you guys using fun factor as a decisive factor? I said fun is fun, I didn't give it a specific value, I said it's the same for someone who enjoys cruising slowly in an auto sportscar as someone who enjoys the manual control of a manual sportscar. The fun is the same for both people.

Assume the guy in the auto car has never had the opportunity to drive anything else, is his ignorance of potential fun still a valid choice?

[Trip]

Originally Posted by Dave

Assume the guy in the auto car has never had the opportunity to drive anything else, is his ignorance of potential fun still a valid choice?

Yes, he is still having fun. The same amount of fun you get from your driving. A lot of cruiser riders have never taken the opportunity to ride sportbikes and vice versa. Both are still having equal amounts of fun. Fun factor helps neither side.

[Avatard]

Originally Posted by Dave

Assume the guy in the auto car has never had the opportunity to drive anything else, is his ignorance of potential fun still a valid choice?

That.

[Avatard]

Originally Posted by Trip

Uh, then why are you guys using fun factor as a decisive factor?

Because ultimately, that is the factor that brings happiness, reward, and positive feedback. The joy with which you drive your car, for most people, their second largest investment, is paramount.

Watch the American Top Gear episode where they test 3 Lambos; the Top End Murcielago, with AWD, and computer everyfuckingthing, the Balboni (RWD, pure driver car), and the Superleggera. The most powerful model, the one designed by the Lambo test driver that's driven every single car made, and the super-lightweight.

Overall, the light car won (anyone with an understanding of basic physics probably guessed that right), the most powerful car was next fastest, and the RWD Balboni, which although it was a great drifter, was the slowest.

When they interviewed everyone, and asked them which one they wanted, they all said the Balboni.

That should tell you something.

There was also a UK Top Gear episode, where they compared a few cars to a rarified Alfa, which this time was among the most expensive, and yet the slowest...but again at the end, was the car that everyone called pure sex, appealed to their every sense, and they ultimately just plain wanted to own.

[Trip]

Originally Posted by Avatard

Because ultimately, that is the factor that brings happiness, reward, and positive feedback. The joy with which you drive your car, for most people, their second largest investment, is paramount.

Watch the American Top Gear episode where they test 3 Lambos; the Top End Murcielago, with AWD, and computer everyfuckingthing, the Balboni (RWD, pure driver car), and the Superleggera. The most powerful model, the one designed by the Lambo test driver that's driven every single car made, and the super-lightweight.

Overall, the light car won (anyone with an understanding of basic physics probably guessed that right), the most powerful car was next fastest, and the RWD Balboni, which although it was a great drifter, was the slowest.

When they interviewed everyone, and asked them which one they wanted, they all said the Balboni.

That should tell you something.

There was also a UK Top Gear episode, where they compared a few cars to a rarified Alfa, which this time was among the most expensive, and yet the slowest...but again at the end, was the car that everyone called pure sex, appealed to their every sense, and they ultimately just plain wanted to own.

Yes, the three guys on top gear represent everyone... Good sample population of the average driver. There are a lot of people that aren't speed demons or want to go fast or do the things that you consider fun, but they still want to own a sportscar. I know that is extremely hard for you to understand, but these people do exist and it good size numbers. A lot of sportscars also fall into 'Luxury' category. So people want the appearance of luxury and may not ever use that power.

Is their fun any less than yours? FUCK NO.

Originally Posted by Avatard

That.

Review the cruiser vs sportbike, that's moot.

[pauldun170]

This thread reminds me of a thread on another board where someone defined a fun sporty car as a car with a nice radio and a spoiler.

[Trip]

Originally Posted by pauldun170

This thread reminds me of a thread on another board where someone defined a fun sporty car as a car with a nice radio and a spoiler.

Ignorance is bliss, so let them have their fun.

[Homeslice]

I just like arguing with you guys

[Avatard]

What, because I agree with Trip on this?

He's wrong about the cars, bruddah, but he's right about the stupid.

[Trip]

Originally Posted by Avatard

What, because I agree with Trip on this?

He's wrong about the cars, bruddah, but he's right about the stupid.

I am not wrong about the cars. Auto is the natural evolution of the automobile. Eventually we will remove the driving aspect of them too. I know you like evolution. If you don't like the feeling of not being in control with an auto, how would you like not driving the thing at all?