Congresswoman shot in Arizona - Page 12

tallywacker · 01-09-2011, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Rangerscott

I don't want to be thought as a northerner that thinks everyone is the south walks around shooting their gun in the air, but Arizona is open carry. I know this is a tiny place on the map with a very small fraction of human population but I would have thought someone would have had a gun on them.

PA and Virgina are Open Carry states. Maybe the didn't think it was appropriate to meet the senator or they thought they would have to pass through a security search to talk to her so they didn't bring a weapon? I know I don't carry to a place where I believe I'm going to be searched.

Rangerscott · 01-09-2011, 01:46 PM

They were at a grocery store. I doubt they were searching people seeing that she now has a hole in her head.

tallywacker · 01-09-2011, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rangerscott

They were at a grocery store. I doubt they were searching people seeing that she now has a hole in her head.

That wasn't my point. Reread my post. I was saying most LAW ABIDING gun carriers would purposely leave their gun in the car or at home ASSUMING there are usually security checks at these sorts of events.

Also she is a democrat, so not too many of her supporters are the gun toting type.

Rangerscott · 01-09-2011, 01:52 PM

I wasnt speaking down on you. May what you said is true but I wouldn't disarm myself. They have the right to carry so I was just expecting someone to be locked and loaded.

Trip · 01-09-2011, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Rangerscott

I wasnt speaking down on you. May what you said is true but I wouldn't disarm myself. They have the right to carry so I was just expecting someone to be locked and loaded.

Most people, even well trained gun owners, don't respond well to something like this. I have seen a study about what would happen if they had well trained gun owners with their guns in a classroom environment and all of them failed to stop the attacker. Most didn't even have time to draw. It usually happens faster than your brain can respond and a lot of people resort to flight as a first instinct.

tallywacker · 01-09-2011, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Trip

Most people, even well trained gun owners, don't respond well to something like this. I have seen a study about what would happen if they had well trained gun owners with their guns in a classroom environment and all of them failed to stop the attacker. Most didn't even have time to draw. It usually happens faster than your brain can respond and a lot of people resort to flight as a first instinct.

Truth

Rangerscott · 01-09-2011, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Trip

Most people, even well trained gun owners, don't respond well to something like this. I have seen a study about what would happen if they had well trained gun owners with their guns in a classroom environment and all of them failed to stop the attacker. Most didn't even have time to draw. It usually happens faster than your brain can respond and a lot of people resort to flight as a first instinct.

Im talking about after the guy started shooting.

goof2 · 01-09-2011, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Rangerscott

Im talking about after the guy started shooting.

I don't carry so I'm just giving my personal impressions. It seems to me most of those who do carry aren't going to be going to an open house for a Democratic candidate, even though Giffords was not the typical anti-gun Democrat. Those who do and were going would probably leave their weapon at home when going to talk to a politician. Those who are in the "I carry all the time, no matter what" crowd would probably avoid events where they might get hassled for carrying. All that said, that is why I suspect there probably weren't people carrying in attendance.

On the "after the guy started shooting" thing, even if he made it all the way through his first magazine (I've heard 30 rounds) the shooting may have been over seconds after it started. If the actual shooting lasted longer than 5-10 seconds I'd be surprised.

Particle Man · 01-09-2011, 02:28 PM

Just saw that those WBC fucks are going to be picketing the funerals of the ones that died...

tallywacker · 01-09-2011, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Particle Man

Just saw that those WBC fucks are going to be picketing the funerals of the ones that died...

People that actually deserve to be shot never do.

01-09-2011, 01:46 PM	#2
Rangerscott Viff6N Mutated Warrior Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Texas Moto: '01 Honda VFR 800 & '09 ER-6N Posts: 8,704	They were at a grocery store. I doubt they were searching people seeing that she now has a hole in her head.

01-09-2011, 01:52 PM	#4
Rangerscott Viff6N Mutated Warrior Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Texas Moto: '01 Honda VFR 800 & '09 ER-6N Posts: 8,704	I wasnt speaking down on you. May what you said is true but I wouldn't disarm myself. They have the right to carry so I was just expecting someone to be locked and loaded.

01-09-2011, 02:28 PM	#9
Particle Man Custom User Title Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Central NY Moto: 2003 SV650S Posts: 14,959	Just saw that those WBC fucks are going to be picketing the funerals of the ones that died...