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Old 09-16-2009, 08:49 AM   #1
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agreed. I think often people mistake industry savvy for actual intelligence.
But industry savvy is VERY rarely related to the actual "artist". It is always the record companies and agents who are making all the smart moves.
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Old 09-16-2009, 08:56 AM   #2
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But industry savvy is VERY rarely related to the actual "artist". It is always the record companies and agents who are making all the smart moves.
Oh absolutely. It's a producer lookin at someone going "I can package that and sell a zillion records."
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Old 09-16-2009, 11:05 AM   #3
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ORLY?

Have you seen or heard anything about his 52-page "book"? It contains tidbits of Kanye wisdom such as "Get use to being used", in giant red fonts that take up entire portions of the 52 pages. And this is from a guy that has proclaimed that he’s a “proud non-reader” who doesn’t see the value in books.

Your opinion of this douchebag being smart is laughable. He may be able to sell crap music to the general population, but all you really need for that is a good producer...no street smarts needed.

Um he is a producer....a very successful one at that. I'm not saying that you guys are wrong but it's obvious that most of you don't know diddily squat about Kanye West except for his stupid remarks about Bush and this latest foolishness.
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Um he is a producer....a very successful one at that. I'm not saying that you guys are wrong but it's obvious that most of you don't know diddily squat about Kanye West except for his stupid remarks about Bush and this latest foolishness.
I know he is not white.
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Old 09-16-2009, 11:23 AM   #5
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I know he is not white.
Well that's good enough right there!!! Get the rope boys!!!

I don't know why this had to get all "racial", Kanye said something negative about Bush, so? White people haven't stopped slamming on Obama since before he was even elected and you don't want to be labeled racist do you? Yes, I know that some idiots DO label you racist if you are against him but I don't until you use the "N" word!
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Old 09-16-2009, 11:29 AM   #6
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Um he is a producer....a very successful one at that. I'm not saying that you guys are wrong but it's obvious that most of you don't know diddily squat about Kanye West except for his stupid remarks about Bush and this latest foolishness.
Um, yeah, actually I was aware. And his being a producer makes him less of a douchebag how?

people don't have to know his blood type and the name of his first grade teacher to know he's an ignorant dickweed; he reminds us of that fact all too often.
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Old 09-16-2009, 11:36 AM   #7
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Um, yeah, actually I was aware. And his being a producer makes him less of a douchebag how?

people don't have to know his blood type and the name of his first grade teacher to know he's an ignorant dickweed; he reminds us of that fact all too often.
He is talking about Kanye being a producer because Lee said "Your opinion of this douchebag being smart is laughable. He may be able to sell crap music to the general population, but all you really need for that is a good producer...no street smarts needed."

He is a producer and a very good one at that. Does that make him less of a prick? No.

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Old 09-16-2009, 11:47 AM   #8
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Um, yeah, actually I was aware. And his being a producer makes him less of a douchebag how?

people don't have to know his blood type and the name of his first grade teacher to know he's an ignorant dickweed; he reminds us of that fact all too often.
No,no,no. I never said he's not a "dickweed" read the post I quoted. I'll wait.

Here, I'll help you,

Some said, he was "smart", someone else said that HE didn't have to be smart to sell records but only needed a "smart" producer. I pointed out that he IS the producer. Simple.

As the "Kanye" of this forum based on the tags you guys have put up, I'll "defend" him only to this point; He has a right to his opinion. Lots of people thought Bush was a dumbass. Lots of people thought that Katrina was mishandled. He's not alone in lots of his opinions, some I agree with, some I do not. Bob Dylan had some crazy opinions, so did Lennon, that doesn't mean that their music sucked or that they were "douchebags".

What he did to Taylor Swift was definitely an asshole move for sure. Although, I also have a feeling that it was staged. There's an ARMY of handlers backstage at the VMAs, I doubt that a mouse could get onto that stage unscheduled.
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i just gained respect for Obama
I think alot of folks did. A few more comments like that and universal healthcare might actually happen
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