Resistance was futile.... - Page 11

Avatard · 06-15-2011, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Trip

Apparently you are a douche to these people...

Only if he actually buys it with the wrong transmission.

Today's clutches are all hydraulic. Super easy on the leg. The high effort days of a manual are past. They're very well behaved, and not much of a chore, even in traffic.

tallywacker · 06-15-2011, 09:23 PM

goof2 · 06-15-2011, 10:11 PM

By the way KS, nice car! Congrats.

Trip · 06-15-2011, 10:13 PM

Homeslice, do you own a dual sport or dirt only bike or just street?

Homeslice · 06-15-2011, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Trip

Homeslice, do you own a dual sport or dirt only bike or just street?

Just street.....haven't taken the time to get into offroad yet

Porkchop · 06-15-2011, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Homeslice

Weird cars to cross-shop, but anyways...

Mazdas are known for good steering. Them along with Subaru and of course all the German manufacturers.

Honda, Toyota, and the Big Three numb out the steering feel because they think people don't want it.

I know the cars are in different categories, but its been a longer process of whittling down a long list. I was looking at,

Trucks: Ram 1500 or Chevy Avalanche

Four doors: the Lancer, the Maz 3, the Jetta, and the Chrysler 200

Two doors: the mustang, and the v6 Challenger.

I got rid of the trucks due to the current cost of gas. If i decide I want something to haul a bike I might just do what a buddy did and pick up an old beater truck for $1500. Due to the overwhelming negative reviews for the v6 challenger, that was removed. The verdict on the new "chepened" jetta seems blah. And I havnt had a chance to see the 200 up close. I've driven both the Maz and Lancer. The question is, do I want a peppy four door... or a 300hp mini-pony car? I probably wont pull the trigger on something until the end of year sales come round. And if I dont see the deal I want, ill wait until spring and come back with more cash...

Trip · 06-16-2011, 10:56 AM

Again, if you want to do the whole driving is pure argument, get to walking. That's pure. Driving is technology. It progresses and moves on. Manuals will eventually disappear from the American standard car market, hell it's getting that way now. Sure it may be in used cars and some race vehicles. Look at NASCAR, they still use carbs and that's pretty much gone from new cars in favor of EFI.

This isn't a battle of which one is better. And fun is a completely unmeasurable quantity, because someone who likes auto or paddles will think they are a shit ton more fun than manual as opposed to you guys who think opposite. The passion of what someone wants in a sports car is completely subjective, your passion for manual can and is equaled by people with a passion for an automatic version.

Trip · 06-16-2011, 11:07 AM

Let's take this to motorcycles. Let's say I believe sportbikes and dual sporting a shit ton more fun than cruisers. You learn how to ride a bike better, you are faster, more capable, and can just do more than a cruiser can. Cruisers ARE NOT AS MUCH FUN, DAMNIT... The "fun factor" is just not in them.

See how stupid of an argument that is, completely retarded, because a cruiser rider can and will have just as much fun on a day out on his bike as I will on mine.

smileyman · 06-16-2011, 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Trip

Let's take this to motorcycles. Let's say I believe sportbikes and dual sporting a shit ton more fun than cruisers. You learn how to ride a bike better, you are faster, more capable, and can just do more than a cruiser can. Cruisers ARE NOT AS MUCH FUN, DAMNIT... The "fun factor" is just not in them.

See how stupid of an argument that is, completely retarded, because a cruiser rider can and will have just as much fun on a day out on his bike as I will on mine.

Trip, you been riding that BMW so long your actually thinking like a German! Not everything can be quantified and engineered for. Fun cannot be defined, so let those with insight into that speak for itself. Standards will exist because some "get it" just as cruisers, hack pthooey, will be enjoyed by folks that appreciate them. There is not right or wrong here.

Back to the sex...I am not sure why some folks like different stuff. I just know what I like and I dont think I would do it different with a super model versus an ugly hag. I just know it beats a test tube or spanking of the monkey. The big deal is I would enjoy it more with the super model, probably take more satisfaction from it which is why I like standards!

Trip · 06-16-2011, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by smileyman

Trip, you been riding that BMW so long your actually thinking like a German! Not everything can be quantified and engineered for. Fun cannot be defined, so let those with insight into that speak for itself. Standards will exist because some "get it" just as cruisers, hack pthooey, will be enjoyed by folks that appreciate them. There is not right or wrong here.

Uh, then why are you guys using fun factor as a decisive factor? I said fun is fun, I didn't give it a specific value, I said it's the same for someone who enjoys cruising slowly in an auto sportscar as someone who enjoys the manual control of a manual sportscar. The fun is the same for both people.

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Trip Hold mah beer! Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: 80 Miles South of Moto Heaven Moto: 08 R1200GS Posts: 23,268	Again, if you want to do the whole driving is pure argument, get to walking. That's pure. Driving is technology. It progresses and moves on. Manuals will eventually disappear from the American standard car market, hell it's getting that way now. Sure it may be in used cars and some race vehicles. Look at NASCAR, they still use carbs and that's pretty much gone from new cars in favor of EFI. This isn't a battle of which one is better. And fun is a completely unmeasurable quantity, because someone who likes auto or paddles will think they are a shit ton more fun than manual as opposed to you guys who think opposite. The passion of what someone wants in a sports car is completely subjective, your passion for manual can and is equaled by people with a passion for an automatic version.

06-16-2011, 11:07 AM	#8
Trip Hold mah beer! Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: 80 Miles South of Moto Heaven Moto: 08 R1200GS Posts: 23,268	Let's take this to motorcycles. Let's say I believe sportbikes and dual sporting a shit ton more fun than cruisers. You learn how to ride a bike better, you are faster, more capable, and can just do more than a cruiser can. Cruisers ARE NOT AS MUCH FUN, DAMNIT... The "fun factor" is just not in them. See how stupid of an argument that is, completely retarded, because a cruiser rider can and will have just as much fun on a day out on his bike as I will on mine.