2011 MotoGP pre-season trash talk thread - Page 4

smileyman · 03-16-2011, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave

Ducati ain't yamaha and rossi ain't stoner

LOL. He's not as wounded as he wants us to think...At least until that Desmo can't place on the podium, then he'll be injured still. Knowing how Lorenzo and Spies will push each other this year, and how fast the Honda's have gotten over the winter, even the satellites, Rossi has his work cut out. If he and Burgess pull it off, it will take some great sorcery and probably everything they can muster.

Dave · 03-16-2011, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by smileyman

LOL. He's not as wounded as he wants us to think...At least until that Desmo can't place on the podium, then he'll be injured still. Knowing how Lorenzo and Spies will push each other this year, and how fast the Honda's have gotten over the winter, even the satellites, Rossi has his work cut out. If he and Burgess pull it off, it will take some great sorcery and probably everything they can muster.

There's only one sattelite honda this year. Everyone else is on full factory equipment. You are also assuming ducati listens to their input and effectively develops new parts.

smileyman · 03-16-2011, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave

There's only one sattelite honda this year. Everyone else is on full factory equipment. You are also assuming ducati listens to their input and effectively develops new parts.

So that is why they are so fast...HRC went full monty. Remember when Rossi switched to Yamaha and Gibbers was carrying the HRC flag with about 6 other Hondas in the field? They tripped themselves up more often than not and split the factory teams points up pretty badly. Rossi and Yamaha swooped in for the kill. I DON'T think that will be the case here. That many fast Hondas should make it hard for the Duc to come thru all the traffic. Not to mention 2 really fast Yamahas. And I dont think they have the magic to completely reinvent the Duc like Yamaha did for them after Max left. They will try but after seeing last years Desmo fuel consumption and handling issues I am not betting on it. Make it faster sure, make it fast enough to win poles and break away, no. Over race distance, no.

Just my 2 cents.

fnfalman · 03-17-2011, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave

Ducati ain't yamaha and rossi ain't stoner

Yeah, Ducati actually has a fast bike. Of course Rossi ain't Stoner. He's a 9-timex world champion. Stoner is a one-shot-wonder.

Dave · 03-17-2011, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by fnfalman

Yeah, Ducati actually has a fast bike. Of course Rossi ain't Stoner. He's a 9-timex world champion. Stoner is a one-shot-wonder.

If ford prefect were to describe the gp11, he'd say it looked like a fish moved like a fish steers like a cow. My comment was first pointed at the factory, you know that small, funds limited, shop with an adversion to change? The other half is at the rider, as I have serious doubts stick boy can muscle the bike around like stoner had to.

This comment on crash cracked me up

Stoners bike - 80%

Rossi's shoulder - 78.2345% (minute-by-minute update apparently)

JB's blood pressure 185/98

Suppo Livio's hard-on - 100%

Rossi's desperate grab for attention from mid-pack - 150%

Another Trophy in Stoners cabinet?

Priceless. Posted by Damo - Unregistered (50 minutes ago)

KSGregman · 03-16-2011, 12:42 PM

I'm REALLY curious to see if Rossi is sand bagging in testing....my shoulder...my shoulder....to try to some kind of weird mind effect on the opposition....lull them into thinking he is wounded and slow and then pouncing on them in the first race to "shock" them.....but....

I think the truth is he is older...his aura of invincibility battered by the broken leg and shoulder....and he's on a bike that is NOTORIOUS for being difficult to ride FAST. I honestly think he made a big mistake by falling for the "dream team, Italian rider on an Italian bike!!!" hype.

First race is coming up....and we'll get our first indication as to where the truth REALLY lies.

Dave · 03-16-2011, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by KSGregman

I'm REALLY curious to see if Rossi is sand bagging in testing....my shoulder...my shoulder....to try to some kind of weird mind effect on the opposition....lull them into thinking he is wounded and slow and then pouncing on them in the first race to "shock" them.....but....

I think the truth is he is older...his aura of invincibility battered by the broken leg and shoulder....and he's on a bike that is NOTORIOUS for being difficult to ride FAST. I honestly think he made a big mistake by falling for the "dream team, Italian rider on an Italian bike!!!" hype.

First race is coming up....and we'll get our first indication as to where the truth REALLY lies.

If his shoulder is so bad why'd he race at vroom? Why'd he do stand up wheelies at the superbike test? Why hasn't he acted impared anywhere besides the back of the gp11?

KSGregman · 03-16-2011, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave

If his shoulder is so bad why'd he race at vroom? Why'd he do stand up wheelies at the superbike test? Why hasn't he acted impared anywhere besides the back of the gp11?

I don't disagree with you....read the second paragraph of what I wrote initially.

Dave · 03-16-2011, 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by KSGregman

I don't disagree with you....read the second paragraph of what I wrote initially.

I did, it wasn't really pointed at you, just adding to it

anthonyk · 03-16-2011, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by KSGregman

I'm REALLY curious to see if Rossi is sand bagging in testing....my shoulder...my shoulder....to try to some kind of weird mind effect on the opposition....lull them into thinking he is wounded and slow and then pouncing on them in the first race to "shock" them.....but....

I think the truth is he is older...his aura of invincibility battered by the broken leg and shoulder....and he's on a bike that is NOTORIOUS for being difficult to ride FAST. I honestly think he made a big mistake by falling for the "dream team, Italian rider on an Italian bike!!!" hype.

First race is coming up....and we'll get our first indication as to where the truth REALLY lies.

Mistake, or just itching for a shot at proving he can take a under-performing bike and make it a winner (again)? Tough call.

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Originally Posted by Dave

If his shoulder is so bad why'd he race at vroom? Why'd he do stand up wheelies at the superbike test? Why hasn't he acted impared anywhere besides the back of the gp11?

If I had to wager, I'd guess that riding a GP bike at race pace (especially the Duc) is a whole lot harder on his shoulder than either of those two events.

He might be sandbagging, but like y'all said, we'll see at the first race.

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Spies	2	16.67%
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03-16-2011, 12:42 PM	#6
KSGregman Get Fit...or Get OUT Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: KS Moto: 07 M109-R Posts: 1,993	I'm REALLY curious to see if Rossi is sand bagging in testing....my shoulder...my shoulder....to try to some kind of weird mind effect on the opposition....lull them into thinking he is wounded and slow and then pouncing on them in the first race to "shock" them.....but.... I think the truth is he is older...his aura of invincibility battered by the broken leg and shoulder....and he's on a bike that is NOTORIOUS for being difficult to ride FAST. I honestly think he made a big mistake by falling for the "dream team, Italian rider on an Italian bike!!!" hype. First race is coming up....and we'll get our first indication as to where the truth REALLY lies.