medical MJ license holder = NO GUN FOR YOU!

RACER X · 09-28-2011, 07:43 AM

ATF Letter

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BOZEMAN, Mont. -- Lenny Brown has always been a gun owner.
"I've owned firearms all my life" he said. "I've been an NRA member all my life."
He is also a medical marijuana card holder. But now, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) say he can't legally be both.
"Federal law here says that if you are an unlawful user or addict, you are a prohibited person" said ATF Public Information Officer out of Denver, Bradley Beyersdorf.
The federal government considers all users of medical marijuana unlawful, no matter what state law says.
The ATF outlined its position today in a letter to federal firearms licensees. In short, it tells them that they cannot sell any firearms or ammunitions to cardholders.
"If somebody who is planning to purchase a firearm and identifies themselves as a medical marijuana card holder" he says, then the gun retailer "should not sell that firearm to that individual."
The ATF tracks the sales of all firearms from Federal Firearms Licensees (FFL) in the United States.
Beyersdorf said that if "somebody goes to purchase a firearm from an FFL, they have to fill out ATF form 4473."
Form 4473 includes several yes or no questions. One asks if the applicant is a "user of" or "addicted" to unlawful substances including marijuana.
Beyersdorf said card holders have to answer yes, which means their application will be denied.
"I was pretty devastated" said Brown, when he saw the ATF's letter. "I felt like my 2nd Amendment rights have been dissolved."
Brown said he thinks the denial comes down to a rights issue, and hopes to see legal action.
NBC Montana called several gun dealers in Bozeman, but they had not seen the letter yet and had no comment.
You can read the ATF's letter by clicking here.

Trip · 09-28-2011, 08:17 AM

Oh well...

Particle Man · 09-28-2011, 08:36 AM

Get the umbrella. Shit storm in 5...4...3...

tommymac · 09-28-2011, 08:51 AM

I guess you realy cant have it all

askmrjesus · 09-28-2011, 08:56 AM

"If they want my gun, they'll have to pry it from my cold, dead, Cheetos stained fingers".

JC

derf · 09-28-2011, 09:16 AM

Apparently gun ownership and MJ cardholers are not like Masterbation or Burger King, you just can't have it your way

Smittie61984 · 09-28-2011, 11:33 AM

I guess I have to be the one to say it.

ATF (and I guess ATFE now) should be a convenience store, not a government agency.

tommymac · 09-28-2011, 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by derf

Apparently gun ownership and MJ cardholers are not like Masterbation or Burger King, you just can't have it your way

honey

doesnt give a shit

Tmall · 09-28-2011, 11:58 AM

Pfft, all they have to do is join a mexican drug cartel, then the ATF will be lining up to give them guns.. No?

shmike · 09-28-2011, 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tmall

Pfft, all they have to do is join a mexican drug cartel, then the ATF will be lining up to give them guns.. No?

Pretty ironic.

If you don't sell to Juan who is running MJ into the country (totally illegally), we'll shut you down.

If you do sell to Jim who is smoking MJ in the country (somewhat legally), we'll shut you down.

09-28-2011, 07:43 AM	#1
RACER X AMA Supersport Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Richmond, Tx Moto: '10 Tuono Factory Posts: 4,569	medical MJ license holder = NO GUN FOR YOU! ATF Letter Article BOZEMAN, Mont. -- Lenny Brown has always been a gun owner. "I've owned firearms all my life" he said. "I've been an NRA member all my life." He is also a medical marijuana card holder. But now, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) say he can't legally be both. "Federal law here says that if you are an unlawful user or addict, you are a prohibited person" said ATF Public Information Officer out of Denver, Bradley Beyersdorf. The federal government considers all users of medical marijuana unlawful, no matter what state law says. The ATF outlined its position today in a letter to federal firearms licensees. In short, it tells them that they cannot sell any firearms or ammunitions to cardholders. "If somebody who is planning to purchase a firearm and identifies themselves as a medical marijuana card holder" he says, then the gun retailer "should not sell that firearm to that individual." The ATF tracks the sales of all firearms from Federal Firearms Licensees (FFL) in the United States. Beyersdorf said that if "somebody goes to purchase a firearm from an FFL, they have to fill out ATF form 4473." Form 4473 includes several yes or no questions. One asks if the applicant is a "user of" or "addicted" to unlawful substances including marijuana. Beyersdorf said card holders have to answer yes, which means their application will be denied. "I was pretty devastated" said Brown, when he saw the ATF's letter. "I felt like my 2nd Amendment rights have been dissolved." Brown said he thinks the denial comes down to a rights issue, and hopes to see legal action. NBC Montana called several gun dealers in Bozeman, but they had not seen the letter yet and had no comment. You can read the ATF's letter by clicking here. __________________ ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ 2014 GROM! 181cc of FURY 2010 Aprilia Tuono Factory - SOLD 2009 SFV Gladius - SOLD 2008 Hayabusa - SOLD.

09-28-2011, 08:56 AM	#5
askmrjesus Soul Man Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Everywhere, all the time. Moto: '0000 Custom Turbo Cross (with jet kit). Posts: 6,481	"If they want my gun, they'll have to pry it from my cold, dead, Cheetos stained fingers". JC __________________ The way things are going, they're gonna crucify me.

09-28-2011, 09:16 AM	#6
derf token jewboy Join Date: Nov 2008 Moto: CBR 900, KLR ugly ass duckling, Gas Man Posts: 10,799	Apparently gun ownership and MJ cardholers are not like Masterbation or Burger King, you just can't have it your way __________________

09-28-2011, 11:33 AM	#7
Smittie61984 I give Squids a bad name Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Fly Over State Moto: 1996 CBR600 F3 (AKA the Flying Turd) Posts: 4,742	I guess I have to be the one to say it. ATF (and I guess ATFE now) should be a convenience store, not a government agency. __________________ lifts - R.I.P.

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Tmall Aspiring Rapper Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Halifax, NS Moto: '12 CB1000R Posts: 3,569	Pfft, all they have to do is join a mexican drug cartel, then the ATF will be lining up to give them guns.. No?