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Old 02-06-2010, 02:16 AM   #41
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..... Dragging a little rear brake while on the throttle will bring the bike down more into the turn of course so will pinning throttle.....
Not with a big piston fork setup. You can throw the fork compressing on braking and trying to get the rear end to squat on exit out of your head. lol

I trail brake at the track and sometimes in the canyon. But in the canyon I usually don't. It's too much work to accelerate the shit on the straights.
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Old 02-06-2010, 09:06 AM   #42
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Just a thought, everybody here shits on useful info at some point. Just so happens that today OSP and Marko and Gas are on the opposite side of the fence.

You all can be pretty negative. I guess it just depends who started the thread that will decide how you take the negativity that ensues.

There was a thread recently where somebody got a new bike, the first two pages were people saying how they didn't like it, and then I was the only one to congratulate him on his bike.

So, I agree we can all be negative and argumentive. It's not limited to a select few.

And something else I've noticed... Stop being a bunch of passive agressive nancies. If you have a problem with somebody or the way the site is run, bring it up. Don't say something to the effect of "
Just STFU and take in some useful motorcycle related information. This is a MC forum, after all...or used to be."

If you have a problem with content, add some. You guys have 10k plus posts. You CANNOT accuse anybody of diluting the content of this forum when you're just as bad/worse as anybody else.

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Old 02-06-2010, 10:13 AM   #43
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It's all about balance, guys. Why pick sides on the argument? Sometimes I trail brake a little on the street, sometimes I don't. It's all situational.


JC, fwiw, I do kinda see what these guys are saying about your... "retaliatory nature" I guess you could call it? And I'm totally guilty of doing the same thing, more often than I care to admit. But I try hard to not let my ego get the best of me and that's kinda what it boils down to. You see someone make a post with an aire of egoism to it and you feel the need to kinda put them in their place. I know how it goes. Like I said, I'm guilty of it, too.
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Old 02-06-2010, 10:56 AM   #44
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JC, fwiw, I do kinda see what these guys are saying about your... "retaliatory nature" I guess you could call it? And I'm totally guilty of doing the same thing, more often than I care to admit. But I try hard to not let my ego get the best of me and that's kinda what it boils down to. You see someone make a post with an aire of egoism to it and you feel the need to kinda put them in their place. I know how it goes. Like I said, I'm guilty of it, too.
Oh Yeah???

I do not have a retaliatory nature, asshole!

(I hate to even have to explain this, but that was a joke. )

There was a time, when a guy could make a snide, off-hand comment about the way somebody said something, or what he said in general, without it turning into a fucking Dr. Phil episode, (I'm looking at you, OSP).

Man the fuck up people. God did not intend for men to from trust circles and talk about their inner most feelings like mature adults. He intended for them to be able to tell each other to fuck off, without fear of somebody needing a tissue.

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go watch a war movie, and see if I can get some of this Orpah smell off me.

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Old 02-06-2010, 10:58 AM   #45
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oh yeah???

I do not have a retaliatory nature, asshole!
FUCK YOU! YES YOU DO!

Now FUCK OFF!


















































































YOU SUCK AT RIDING!
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Old 02-06-2010, 10:59 AM   #46
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FUCK YOU! YES YOU DO!



Ya know what? FUCK OFF!


















YOU SUCK AT RIDING!


Much better.

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Old 02-06-2010, 11:49 AM   #47
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Old 02-06-2010, 03:04 PM   #48
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And I thought nobody read my posts. I don't post on too many threads since I don't buy a new bike every year, or even every decade. I haven't done a mod since I installed new shocks years ago. My helmet's 6 years old, and my leathers are older. Plus, I'm not half as clever or funny as the other posters.

As for riding, I haven't been on a track since 1984, and I parked my dirt bike on the side of my garage in 1992. My wife doesn't like me to ride on the interstate, and the mountain passes are snow-covered or closed for the winter. I used to ride up deserted Clear Creek to the ghost town of Central City. But then they put gambling in there, and now the road is full of tour buses and drunks. So Lookout Mountain isn't the greatest, but it's all I have.

I can't believe I'll be 60 in two months. I started riding after the "Never brake with the front brake" generation, and before the "Never brake with the rear brake" generation. My generation was "Never brake in a turn." Of course, they're all wrong. Whoever gave trail-braking that name also screwed up. Many people think it means braking with the rear brake as when you are on a dirt trail. Too bad they didn't call it "Corner braking" or something else.

But it's never to late to learn. I just started leaning off the bike several years ago. Now I lean on every stinking curve. If it drives the riders behind me nuts, so much the better.
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Old 02-06-2010, 03:48 PM   #49
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I have a pretty good handle on trail-braking (braking to the apex, whatever), and completely agree that it's an essential part of the street-survival toolbox. I rarely use it on the street, but it's certainly good to be able to do so when necessary - and very tight switchbacks (especially downhill) sometimes do make it necessary or at least more comfortable/safe to do so. Most of my twisty riding, I let the point where I don't need to use much brake at all dictate my 'street pace', and stay off them all together - allows a ton of reserve when needed.


No Worries - that's an area of the state I've never really explored much, and I'd love to meet up with you sometime so you can show me around & maybe teach me a thing or two.
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Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go watch a war movie, and see if I can get some of this Orpah smell off me.

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