Health Care..what do you think?

[Smittie61984]

Originally Posted by goof2

I agree with this 100% and listed it as one of the two things that healthcare reform must have if the politicians are actually serious in my earlier post.

The Republicans actually have a bill that would allow people to puchase health insurance across state lines. For some odd reason that's not making the news or more importantly any headway in congress.

Of course where was this bill when the Republicans actually had power?

[Rangerscott]

I dont have health insurance cause it cost too much.

[RACER X]

does canada have the "illegals" problem like we have? and do their illegals pay taxes?

[karl_1052]

Originally Posted by RACER X

does canada have the "illegals" problem like we have? and do their illegals pay taxes?

There are no illegals in Canada. Everybody is welcome, but it is too cold for Mexicans.

Originally Posted by tommymac

there are pros and cons with each system.

This is the only true statement in this whole thread.

[Tmall]

Don't you already pay for those who can't afford coverage? Do you think the hospital and insurance companies absorb that?

At least this way everybody pays for it..

[Tmall]

Yet, ppl are scared of change.

Azoom says she doesn't want to pay for other, but again you're already paying for those who can't afford it.


What exactly are you guys opposed to with the new system?

Everything I've read just seems to be the same talking points.

[goof2]

Originally Posted by Tmall

Yet, ppl are scared of change.

Azoom says she doesn't want to pay for other, but again you're already paying for those who can't afford it.


What exactly are you guys opposed to with the new system?

Everything I've read just seems to be the same talking points.

We currently pay for the emergency life saving care of those who cannot afford it. Under this bill we will be paying for all care for those who cannot afford it. Can you see where there might be a difference in those two numbers?

I am not opposed to change if it is likely to work. I don't think this bill falls in that category. More than anything I am concerned that an unintended consequence will be a serious decline in medical innovations coming out of this country. That shouldn't just concern America, but the rest of the world as well.

[tommymac]

Originally Posted by goof2

We currently pay for the emergency life saving care of those who cannot afford it. Under this bill we will be paying for all care for those who cannot afford it. Can you see where there might be a difference in those two numbers?

I am not opposed to change if it is likely to work. I don't think this bill falls in that category. More than anything I am concerned that an unintended consequence will be a serious decline in medical innovations coming out of this country. That shouldn't just concern America, but the rest of the world as well.

I am not sure if its we, directly or indirectly with emergency care. I know for alot of the illegals and uninsured they just dotn pay the bills so I dont know if the hospital eats the cost or its spread out to the rest of us.

Where i work you sort of need insurance but at kings county hospital across the street you dont, the city/hhc foots the bill for all of them.

[goof2]

Originally Posted by tommymac

I am not sure if its we, directly or indirectly with emergency care. I know for alot of the illegals and uninsured they just dotn pay the bills so I dont know if the hospital eats the cost or its spread out to the rest of us.

Where i work you sort of need insurance but at kings county hospital across the street you dont, the city/hhc foots the bill for all of them.

Those who pay their medical bills pay for it. Find out how much King's County bills patients for syringes, band-aids, etc. I will bet the numbers are outrageous compared to their costs. From what I have seen patients without insurance are billed around double compared to what insurance actually pays. These are the typical ways to make up for those that don't pay their bill from what I understand.

[tommymac]

Originally Posted by goof2

Those who pay their medical bills pay for it. Find out how much King's County bills patients for syringes, band-aids, etc. I will bet the numbers are outrageous compared to their costs. From what I have seen patients without insurance are billed around double compared to what insurance actually pays. These are the typical ways to make up for those that don't pay their bill from what I understand.

I think they also overbill figuring they will at least get something back opposed to nothing.

When I was still at ups I had passed out from heat exhaustion in the warehouse and gottaken to the hospital. The money hungry quacks let me rest, checked my blood and gave me some IV saline. All in all no biggie, apparently the work ins kinda screwed up and within a month I had a collection agency harassing me. I wound up paying out of pocket then got reimbursed. HR guy got an earful from me as well as management for that one.

Tom