alcohol and concealed carry permits

Dragonpaco · 08-12-2009, 10:20 PM

i'm trying to figure out what the laws are concerning being drunk and in possession of a firearm. i know it's a retarded idea but me and my roommate are having an argument about it. if anyone can help i'd appreciate it

Smittie61984 · 08-12-2009, 10:27 PM

If you are in your home and on your property I'm guessing you can get as drunk as you want with as many guns as you want and that's without a concealed or carrying license.

But I'm assuming you are talking about in public locations where a CCW would apply. Here in Georgia I could carry a firearm into a bar (open or concealed) but the bar can deny you too (which is their right). But if I even have 1 alcoholic beverage I'd be in trouble. What kind of trouble, I have no clue.

Amorok · 08-12-2009, 11:21 PM

In Mississippi you cannot conceal a firearm in a location that makes over 50% of their revenue selling alcohol by the drink. So I can carry in Chili's, but not the Fort Bayou Saloon. There's no specific law about being drunk with a firearm, but it would affect your sentence if you had to go to court. On your own property anything goes, but again, if you're drunk with a firearm and something happens you're getting fried in court.

ericr · 08-12-2009, 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Smittie61984

If you are in your home and on your property I'm guessing you can get as drunk as you want with as many guns as you want and that's without a concealed or carrying license.

But I'm assuming you are talking about in public locations where a CCW would apply. Here in Georgia I could carry a firearm into a bar (open or concealed) but the bar can deny you too (which is their right). But if I even have 1 alcoholic beverage I'd be in trouble. What kind of trouble, I have no clue.

Actually in GA you CANNOT carry in a "BAR", if you try you will probably be arrested violently

The law was recently changed to allow carry in a "RESTURANT" that serves acohol (was prohibited until last year with the change). It is against the law to consume alcohol while carrying concealed or otherwise in a public venue. Before, that law stated that the firearm HAD to be concealed to carry in public, now it can be carried openly from what I understand. Personally I don't like to advertise that I'm carrying. You still cannot wear one in any govt. buildings. I don't thnk you need a permit now to have a loaded firearm in your vehicle, before it had to be unloaded without a permit. Those were the major changes in GA laws recently.

Dragonpaco · 08-13-2009, 12:26 AM

my main question is, what if you get stopped for drunk in public and you have a gun on you but you also have a concealed carry.

Smittie61984 · 08-13-2009, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by ericr

Actually in GA you CANNOT carry in a "BAR", if you try you will probably be arrested violently

The law was recently changed to allow carry in a "RESTURANT" that serves acohol (was prohibited until last year with the change). It is against the law to consume alcohol while carrying concealed or otherwise in a public venue. Before, that law stated that the firearm HAD to be concealed to carry in public, now it can be carried openly from what I understand. Personally I don't like to advertise that I'm carrying. You still cannot wear one in any govt. buildings. I don't thnk you need a permit now to have a loaded firearm in your vehicle, before it had to be unloaded without a permit. Those were the major changes in GA laws recently.

Well I don't believe Georgia has any technical bars. Aren't all places that serve alcohol in Georgia required to be are 70/30 splits. Except for some in cities like Athens or Savannah but I think those are 50/50 splits which I think still classifies them as a restaurant.

The laws are fucked up weird, especially when they clash with federal laws. Which reminds me whatever happend to that Georgia congressman who said he was going to carry a pistol into Hartsfield and pick up his wife?

Either way I say Fuck Em'. 2nd ammendment says I can bear that bitch if I want to. Though private property rights supercede my right to carry on someone's property. Though I wonder if an argument could be made that since the state allows it, a private business can't deny someone the ability to carry a pistol into their place of business (I wouldn't agree but wondering).

Trip · 08-13-2009, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Dragonpaco

my main question is, what if you get stopped for drunk in public and you have a gun on you but you also have a concealed carry.

All states I know of will put you in jail and strip you of your carry license and could strip you of your ability to obtain a carry license in the future. I don't know of any states that will allow you to carry and drink alcohol.

Don't do it.

Gas Man · 08-13-2009, 02:13 AM

Yeah that is the trick... you basically cant carry and drink in public. Here's michigan's law on it

http://www.michigan.gov/msp/0,1607,7...0961--,00.html

101lifts2 · 08-13-2009, 02:50 AM

I think it's illegal to even think about a gun in California.

Krypt Keeper · 08-13-2009, 08:30 AM

Yep don't carry if you plan to drink. Plain and Simple..

Virginia also just recently changed the law to where you could carry and go into a place that serves alcohol.

I personally tend to avoid most eating establishments or store with "NO CONCEALED WEAPONS Guns or knives" signs on their doors.

If its concealed how would you ever know if I have it. (I mostly avoid all places with these signs) Here is a link for a list of those in Virginia http://www.vcdl.org/static/gue.html

I guess I can't carry my Kershaw pocket knife in a restaurant cause I might want to pull it out and hurt someone, yet you serve me a steak with an 8" serrated steak knife.

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Amorok Issukangitok Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Biloxi, MS Moto: '06 Suzuki Boulevard C50T Posts: 2,225	In Mississippi you cannot conceal a firearm in a location that makes over 50% of their revenue selling alcohol by the drink. So I can carry in Chili's, but not the Fort Bayou Saloon. There's no specific law about being drunk with a firearm, but it would affect your sentence if you had to go to court. On your own property anything goes, but again, if you're drunk with a firearm and something happens you're getting fried in court. __________________ What goes around comes around. Sometimes you get what's coming around, and sometimes you are what's coming around. You see what I mean?

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Gas Man Trip's Assistant Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Imported from Detroit Moto: 2009 HD Street Classic Posts: 12,149	Yeah that is the trick... you basically cant carry and drink in public. Here's michigan's law on it http://www.michigan.gov/msp/0,1607,7...0961--,00.html __________________ -Chris "Why pay somebody else to fuck up your bike?" Run Amsoil Product

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08-13-2009, 08:30 AM	#10
Krypt Keeper Kneedragger Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: VA Moto: CBR1100XX, Daytona 600 Posts: 174	Yep don't carry if you plan to drink. Plain and Simple.. Virginia also just recently changed the law to where you could carry and go into a place that serves alcohol. I personally tend to avoid most eating establishments or store with "NO CONCEALED WEAPONS Guns or knives" signs on their doors. If its concealed how would you ever know if I have it. (I mostly avoid all places with these signs) Here is a link for a list of those in Virginia http://www.vcdl.org/static/gue.html I guess I can't carry my Kershaw pocket knife in a restaurant cause I might want to pull it out and hurt someone, yet you serve me a steak with an 8" serrated steak knife.