Toddler uses medical marijuana

[Hydrant]

I have to take a yearly drug tests plus randoms.

I've been told to test positive from second hand, you'd have to be riding in an enclosed car with someone constantly blowing it in your face, and even that still might come up negative. But that is for a non DOT drug screen. For Trip, I don't know how stringent they have it set for employees for a nuclear facility.

[Dave]

Originally Posted by Avatard

Why? Vaporizing is fine. It's a plant that grows in the ground. Why should I have to bear financial hardship to be well?

My disease actually benefits SPECIFICALLY from the TAR in the smoked herb.

When I don't have it, I have to take heavy muscle relaxants that virtually incapacitate me for the entire day (and cause horrible depression the following day), and sometimes even have to sleep with my shoes on, because the horrible contractions of my tendons and muscles in my feet and legs are not as well controlled as on cannabis.

Why do you hate my medicine? Why do you think how I take it should be controlled?

Because someone else might use this harmless herb recreationally? Can't have that, can we?

i dont hate your medicine. i just want to be sure that its SAFE for you. that its grown in government inspected farms, refined into depressingly non fun forms in a properly licensed facility by good due paying union workers and distributed in exchange for a note from a real doctor over a counter wrapped up in an unassuming clear brown plastic container with a childproof cap that no one can open and a neat little label on the front that displays its contents.

you know like everything else in this country.

like your juice

[shmike]

Originally Posted by Dave

i dont hate your medicine. i just want to be sure that its SAFE for you. that its grown in government inspected farms, refined into depressingly non fun forms in a properly licensed facility by good due paying union workers and distributed in exchange for a note from a real doctor over a counter wrapped up in an unassuming clear brown plastic container with a childproof cap that no one can open and a neat little label on the front that displays its contents.

you know like everything else in this country.

like your juice

[Rangerscott]

If only syringes full of crack grew out the of the ground or off some tree.

[Avatard]

Originally Posted by shmike

But for the fact I detect more than a bit of sarcasm in his post.

Originally Posted by Rangerscott

If only syringes full of crack grew out the of the ground or off some tree.

Is crack helping people with diseases? Wow, I had no idea.

Yeah, that would be great then, huh?

[Apoc]

Originally Posted by Trip

The only reason I can see for this and why it should be controlled outside of your home is it effecting other people.

I highly doubt we will ever get to the point of it being legalize in the USA. We may see medical though. But let's just say if you decide to start smoking it around me and I have to inhale that shit and then get called in on a random drug screening at work (it does happen for me quite regularly, have had to do it 3 times in two weeks before) and then I get fired because of your ass, I am not going to be a happy camper with you.

No different than alcohol, it wouldnt be legal to do just anywhere. If your going to some place that its used, you have no one to blame but yourself.

Also, if it was legal, employers wouldnt be able to fire you for using at home. At least in Canada they wouldnt.

[derf]

Originally Posted by jtemple

Trip, I don't think you can pop positive from secondhand smoke. Relax.

Ho fuck yeh you can. 99% of the time those positives get thrown out at the drug test lab because of the many what if's. There are standard thresholds that your sample must exceed, if it doesnt pass that threshold it gets tossed.

Not sure what the threshold is for trips job but it could be pretty low depending on their requirements. It could be just a few hundred parts per million, but in the military it is in the low tens of thousands and in general for a normal job its slightly higher

Originally Posted by Apoc

Also, if it was legal, employers wouldnt be able to fire you for using at home. At least in Canada they wouldnt.

Canada isn't america, keep that common sense shit up there where it belongs

[Dave]

Originally Posted by derf

Ho fuck yeh you can. 99% of the time those positives get thrown out at the drug test lab because of the many what if's. There are standard thresholds that your sample must exceed, if it doesnt pass that threshold it gets tossed.

Not sure what the threshold is for trips job but it could be pretty low depending on their requirements. It could be just a few hundred parts per million, but in the military it is in the low tens of thousands and in general for a normal job its slightly higher




Canada isn't america, keep that common sense shit up there where it belongs

Ill admit I was concerned about this drill since I had to clean out a car some fucking stoner decided to hotbox in and it was still pretty strong when I arrived

[Kaneman]

This lady uses Cannabis to help her autistic son...

"The Unconventional Foundation for Autism"
http://uf4a.org/

Cannabis for President.

Also, its not possible to test positive from second hand cannabis smoke, so you don't have to worry about that.

[Avatard]

We have cannabinoid receptors in our brains. Hell, we have cannibinoids in our brains. Even if you've never touched the plant in any way in your whole life. The fact is, humans have co-existed with, and used this herb medicinally since the dawn of time. It's been used for centuries as medicine, fiber, food, and oil.

Prohibition is about money, and business. Not the "public good".

The person most responsible for marijuana being illegal in the US was a guy named Harry Anslinger. Harry was a High School dropout and a Railroad detective when he had the good fortune to marry the niece of one of the most prominent bankers in the country, Andrew W. Mellon. Mellon was also the Secretary of the Treasury and he appointed Harry Anslinger in 1930 to the newly created Bureau of Narcotics, which later became the office of the Drug Czar, which Harry held for 32 years.

Harry Anslinger was at first not interested in marijuana, stating that it was a minor annoyance compared to other drugs like heroin and morphine. However, in 1934 Harry did a complete about-face and began to tell lurid and unsubstantiated tales of marijuana causing people, especially dark colored people, to go crazy and either rape white women or kill white men and women. He was supported in these stories by wild reports in the Hearst newspapers, the genesis of yellow-journalism. Why the change in heart..?

In 1934 DuPont created a means of extracting paper from wood pulp and the primary competition in this industry was hemp. One of the primary investors in the Carnegie-Mellon Bank was DuPont, and the other was Hearst. By making marijuana illegal, they guaranteed that their system for making paper from wood pulp would be the only means of obtaining newsprint, and they would gain great wealth. All of the stories that Harry Anslinger told in order to get the first legislation passed, The Marijuana Tax Stamp Act, were later proved to be lies. In 1962 at age 70 Harry was retired, but his lies continue to live on.

The Marijuana Tax Stamp Act was a way to make marijuana illegal without going through the pesky steps of actual legislation (for which they feared they might not yet have enough support for, despite their efforts at propaganda, such as films like the one now known as "Reefer Madness").

Hemp, you see, as it turns out, makes over 4 TIMES AS MUCH as much paper pulp per acre, per year of land, as logging trees.

This is not the only time a few robber barons created a horrible prohibition in this country to protect their interests, however.

The prohibition of alcohol was created because a certain man named Henry Ford had created a car that ran on ethanol, and a certain cartel headed by John D. Rockefeller wanted the fuel of the day to be petroleum.

Needless to say, the prohibition of alcohol took hold, and Mr. Ford made his car run on Gasoline.

How was this done? How was this accomplished? Well, very similar propaganda tactics were used as with cannabis, and a lot materials were distributed to women's conservative church groups, which mobilized them against the "evils of alcohol", and ultimately all the fucking madness was only repealed when the gas stations were all already safely in place.

One should probably note that today the Internet has finally toppled the "empire of the printed page", and not surprisingly, at last this prohibition of cannabis is finally winding to a close, and being allowed to die with the industry that fabricated it.

It's medicine, it's harmless, it's rope. Sit back, relax, and enjoy a spliff, won't you?