who's at fault - Page 3

Captain Morgan · 01-07-2009, 03:47 PM

I'm not saying the biker should have been tailgating. However, you can clearly see there is NO traffic in front of the cage and NO reason for him to slam on the brakes. Tapping your lights to let someone to know to back off is one thing. Slamming on your brakes and coming to a complete stop when nothing is in front of you is another. As stated, both are really at fault and that's the way the insurance company will probably view it if they have the video evidence.

deals gap dragon slayer · 01-07-2009, 03:49 PM

can we just execute them both for being total db's?

Racerboy · 01-07-2009, 04:30 PM

We have no clue as to the happenings from before the video clip...

The biker is at fault for the accident....

But the true road rage would have been the biker pulling out a Glock 17 and capping that prick for getting into a street situation in the first place....

Again, we don't know what lead up to the incident, too bad

Quick281 · 01-07-2009, 06:15 PM

Taters whore of an x wife is to blame for all of this.

Both of them are idiots. Who knows what the fuck the problem was to begin with and then for the biker to follow a car that closely knowing the dude was mad was just asking for it.

Smittie61984 · 01-11-2009, 01:55 PM

Hahahaha. I love the brake check.

If it was me it would have been over at the push. I'd beat his face in and then run over his bike multiple times with my truck.

Oh. And the riding my ass part. I don't give a fuck if you are on a motorcycle or not. Try to "Intimidate" me by getting on my ass I'll lock the brakes down until we stop or you're eating my trailer hitch or flying through my back windsheild. I fucking can't stand it when people get on my ass.

No doubt about it being the bikes fault.

Amber Lamps · 01-11-2009, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Smittie61984

Hahahaha. I love the brake check.

If it was me it would have been over at the push. I'd beat his face in and then run over his bike multiple times with my truck.

Oh. And the riding my ass part. I don't give a fuck if you are on a motorcycle or not. Try to "Intimidate" me by getting on my ass I'll lock the brakes down until we stop or you're eating my trailer hitch or flying through my back windsheild. I fucking can't stand it when people get on my ass.

No doubt about it being the bikes fault.

100% with you buddy! If you get on my ass like that,I can just about guarantee a brake check is in your future.

I don't know what started it but I can guess that the cager either was tailgaiting or honked at the biker. The biker got angry and stopped his bike and approached the car driver which can be construed as an aggressive act and which precipitated the shove. Then the biker got in the the cager's face again. The cager wisely got back into his car and the "accident" ensued...

Last I checked,the vehicle in front is not required to "justify" it's reason for stopping,it is up to the following vehicles to leave adequate distance to avoid a collision. Biker was completely at fault.

Mr Lefty · 01-11-2009, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TIGGER

100% with you buddy! If you get on my ass like that,I can just about guarantee a brake check is in your future.

I don't know what started it but I can guess that the cager either was tailgaiting or honked at the biker. The biker got angry and stopped his bike and approached the car driver which can be construed as an aggressive act and which precipitated the shove. Then the biker got in the the cager's face again. The cager wisely got back into his car and the "accident" ensued...

Last I checked,the vehicle in front is not required to "justify" it's reason for stopping,it is up to the following vehicles to leave adequate distance to avoid a collision. Biker was completely at fault.

I can only speak for Oregon... but they have two different laws that i'm aware of that you can get in trouble for this move for. 1. Road Rage. brake check'n is specifically listed as a road rage action in the law. 2. not sure what the name is... but basically it's intent to cause an accident. usually for insurance fraud.

and the fact that he fled the scene, and had the initial altercation, dude would be fucked on a Road Rage charge. But then again... in Oregon, the biker would be charged too.

Smittie61984 · 01-11-2009, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TIGGER

100% with you buddy! If you get on my ass like that,I can just about guarantee a brake check is in your future.

I'm a pretty calm driver and I don't get angry when someone makes a mistake. Even when someone pulls out in front of me while I'm on my motorcycle. I just chalk it up to another day on the road. Infact I had a guy rearend me at a redlight one time. I had my bike rack on with no bikes in it and it didn't do any damage to me. I asked the guy if he was okay and needed anything (His front bumper was mucked up some) and he said he was fine. Then we went our seperate ways.

But show aggression to me and I'll dish out my extra strength crazy. My other major pet peeve is when people block the intersections knowing they are going to get a red light. I'll wreck my damn truck over that.

Mr Lefty · 01-11-2009, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Smittie61984

I'm a pretty calm driver and I don't get angry when someone makes a mistake. Even when someone pulls out in front of me while I'm on my motorcycle. I just chalk it up to another day on the road. Infact I had a guy rearend me at a redlight one time. I had my bike rack on with no bikes in it and it didn't do any damage to me. I asked the guy if he was okay and needed anything (His front bumper was mucked up some) and he said he was fine. Then we went our seperate ways.

But show aggression to me and I'll dish out my extra strength crazy. My other major pet peeve is when people block the intersections knowing they are going to get a red light. I'll wreck my damn truck over that.

I scared the shit out of a woman by doing that... the light was yellow and she could roll forward 2 feet... yet she still did it... made me wait through TWO fucking lights because of her... so for the second light... (I was in my friends lifted superduty... I dumped the clutch and smoked the tires up to about a foot from her door.... I couldn't see her face but I could still hear the screaming over the diesel engine

Riceaholic · 01-11-2009, 06:06 PM

The guy in the car was at fault for trying to look like a toughguy while driving an Eclipse. The dude on the bike can't have been riding for more than two days if he didn't see that brakecheck coming...

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01-07-2009, 04:30 PM	#23
Racerboy The Other White Meat Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Phoenix, AZ Moto: 1997 Cadillac Seville SLS Posts: 608	We have no clue as to the happenings from before the video clip... The biker is at fault for the accident.... But the true road rage would have been the biker pulling out a Glock 17 and capping that prick for getting into a street situation in the first place.... Again, we don't know what lead up to the incident, too bad __________________ Have you ever wondered if the earth was a mental asylum for people rejected from a planet more sophisticated than ours... www.CheckeredFlagOils.com 954-975-BIKE (2453) 623-850-1OIL (1645)

01-07-2009, 06:15 PM	#24
Quick281 Victim of Blazer Rapage Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Talkeetna, AK Moto: 06 GSXR 600 Posts: 1,707	Taters whore of an x wife is to blame for all of this. Both of them are idiots. Who knows what the fuck the problem was to begin with and then for the biker to follow a car that closely knowing the dude was mad was just asking for it. __________________ -Alex- Resident TWFix Noob. My 06 GSXR 600 <-- Its Clickable Fools.

01-11-2009, 01:55 PM	#25
Smittie61984 I give Squids a bad name Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Fly Over State Moto: 1996 CBR600 F3 (AKA the Flying Turd) Posts: 4,742	Hahahaha. I love the brake check. If it was me it would have been over at the push. I'd beat his face in and then run over his bike multiple times with my truck. Oh. And the riding my ass part. I don't give a fuck if you are on a motorcycle or not. Try to "Intimidate" me by getting on my ass I'll lock the brakes down until we stop or you're eating my trailer hitch or flying through my back windsheild. I fucking can't stand it when people get on my ass. No doubt about it being the bikes fault. __________________ lifts - R.I.P.

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01-07-2009, 03:47 PM	#21
Captain Morgan Let's do another U-turn Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Indiana Moto: 2009 V-Strom Posts: 3,816	I'm not saying the biker should have been tailgating. However, you can clearly see there is NO traffic in front of the cage and NO reason for him to slam on the brakes. Tapping your lights to let someone to know to back off is one thing. Slamming on your brakes and coming to a complete stop when nothing is in front of you is another. As stated, both are really at fault and that's the way the insurance company will probably view it if they have the video evidence.

01-07-2009, 03:49 PM	#22
deals gap dragon slayer Addicted to Track Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: McKinney, TX Moto: 2007 Kawi ZX-10R Posts: 147	can we just execute them both for being total db's?

01-11-2009, 06:06 PM	#30
Riceaholic High Life Drinker Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Tampa Bay Moto: 01 GSXR 1000 - Yamaha Zuma 125 Posts: 961	The guy in the car was at fault for trying to look like a toughguy while driving an Eclipse. The dude on the bike can't have been riding for more than two days if he didn't see that brakecheck coming...