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RACER X 10-09-2013 08:43 PM

obamacare website cost how much?
 
Gross: U.S. Taxpayers Shelled Out $634,320,919 To Build Obamacare Website



Via Digital Journal:
It’s been one full week since the flagship technology portion of the Affordable Care Act (Obamacare) went live. And since that time, the befuddled beast that is Healthcare.gov has shutdown, crapped out, stalled, and mis-loaded so consistently that its track record for failure is challenged only by Congress.


The site itself, which apparently underwent major code renovations over the weekend, still rejects user logins, fails to load drop-down menus and other crucial components for users that successfully gain entrance, and otherwise prevents uninsured Americans in the 36 states it serves from purchasing healthcare at competitive rates – Healthcare.gov’s primary purpose. The site is so busted that, as of a couple days ago, the number of people that successfully purchased healthcare through it was in the “single digits,” according to the Washington Post.


The reason for this nationwide headache apparently stems from poorly written code, which buckled under the heavy influx of traffic that its engineers and administrators should have seen coming. But the fact that Healthcare.gov can’t do the one job it was built to do isn’t the most infuriating part of this debacle – it’s that we, the taxpayers, seem to have forked up more than $634 million of the federal purse to build the digital equivalent of a rock.


The exact cost to build Healthcare.gov, according to U.S. government records, appears to have been $634,320,919, which we paid to a company you probably never heard of: CGI Federal. The company originally won the contract back in 2011, but at that time, the cost was expected to run “up to” $93.7 million – still a chunk of change, but nothing near where it ended up.

Finish the story here:
Obamacare's broken website cost more than LinkedIn, Spotify combined | Digital Trends





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Trip 10-09-2013 08:48 PM

Holy fuck....

goof2 10-09-2013 09:28 PM

I'm not sure their accounting is particularly accurate considering large portions of the contracts they are counting were only awarded in the last few months. Often IT purchases by the government will include delivering the product, in this case the website, then years of support and services around updating and maintaining the product. It may also include in this case the hardware required to run the website along with maintenance and support for that.

Regardless, even if the real number is an order of magnitude (or two) less the government still managed to massively overpay for an inferior product. Isn't that pretty much expected at this point?

Maybe the shutdown isn't such a bad thing. The government has to slow the pace of their fuckups for a few weeks, it'll likely save taxpayers a few billion by accident. It just sucks that the government seems to select the wrong shit to shut down, again to be expected.

pauldun170 10-09-2013 09:33 PM

Is it me, or did they take all the government contracts awarded to CGI Group Inc. and try to claim its only for the website.
Isn't that kind of ...dishonest?
What kind of website would try and outright deceive its readers like that? That makes me sad.

I thought the website cost 90 million?


In other news, an HP contractor came to give me a new laptop not to long ago.
Looking at how much we paid HP for their services...it cost my company 1 billion dollars to have HP provide me with a laptop.

pauldun170 10-09-2013 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goof2 (Post 532131)
I'm not sure their accounting is particularly accurate considering large portions of the contracts they are counting were only awarded in the last few months. Often IT purchases by the government will include delivering the product, in this case the website, then years of support and services around updating and maintaining the product. It may also include in this case the hardware required to run the website along with maintenance and support for that.

Regardless, even if the real number is an order of magnitude (or two) less the government still managed to massively overpay for an inferior product. Isn't that pretty much expected at this point?

Maybe the shutdown isn't such a bad thing. The government has to slow the pace of their fuckups for a few weeks, it'll likely save taxpayers a few billion by accident. It just sucks that the government seems to select the wrong shit to shut down, again to be expected.


From what I've read, that company has been the go to for a lot of government projects.
Website was one of them.
A 3 year government project of this scale\scope (regulations\state to state crap\requirements creep coming all over) the cost isn't that surprising. My company has spend more on less.

Time|Quality|Budget

You can pick 2


The code quality issue....all I have to say is I'd like to see who the company contracted out to for the analysis\coding work.
Lot of those firms are cheap for a reason.
Screenshots and mockups look great...everything is copy pasta junk layered upon copy pasta junk. I bet it worked great in demos and the testers really liked the fonts

CasterTroy 10-10-2013 10:12 AM

How is this even remotely surprising to anyone?

They have to pay for NSA tracking SOMEHOW. It's only obvious to anyone who's ever coded that the number is inflated by 1000%

pauldun170 10-10-2013 11:32 AM

http://arstechnica.com/information-t...hard-so-often/

fatbuckRTO 10-10-2013 08:53 PM

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013...t-634-million/

If you get fact-check corrected by The Blaze, you fail at life.

Papa_Complex 10-18-2013 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pauldun170 (Post 532133)
From what I've read, that company has been the go to for a lot of government projects.
Website was one of them.
A 3 year government project of this scale\scope (regulations\state to state crap\requirements creep coming all over) the cost isn't that surprising. My company has spend more on less.

Time|Quality|Budget

You can pick 2


The code quality issue....all I have to say is I'd like to see who the company contracted out to for the analysis\coding work.
Lot of those firms are cheap for a reason.
Screenshots and mockups look great...everything is copy pasta junk layered upon copy pasta junk. I bet it worked great in demos and the testers really liked the fonts

Could also be load issues, causing bottlenecks getting to the databases. We paid good cash for testing applications that simulate real world loads, and still got hammered when we brought online course systems online, and that was only a few tens of thousands of users logged on simultaneously. The one thing that hadn't been considered, in the initial testing, was that people are impatient idiots who hammer the go button repeatedly to try and make the page load faster, which results in multiple queries that add up to bring the servers to their knees.

Trip 10-18-2013 06:47 PM

I been laughing hysterically about my younger liberal friends on facebook that have very little healthcare coverage whining about losing their plans and having to buy much more expensive ones they don't need because of the healthcare plan requirements. One person is going from 175 a month to over 700.

EpyonXero 10-18-2013 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trip (Post 532333)
I been laughing hysterically about my younger liberal friends on facebook that have very little healthcare coverage whining about losing their plans and having to buy much more expensive ones they don't need because of the healthcare plan requirements. One person is going from 175 a month to over 700.

Is that in one of the states that declined to expand Medicare?

Trip 10-18-2013 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EpyonXero (Post 532335)
Is that in one of the states that declined to expand Medicare?

I think they approved it. It's Michigan. Young people that barely carry any coverage cause they don't need it and make a high salary are getting screwed. They are paying for the subsidies.

Lots of states are going to see jacked up prices to pay for all the new coverage in states with much higher healthcare costs.

RACER X 10-22-2013 08:41 AM

Wife has had 2 friends mess w the site, 1 has been bo booted off 3x so far and can't get back on

Other got signed up, family, $600/mos , $12k deduc, yikes! Lol

Papa_Complex 10-22-2013 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Trip (Post 532336)
I think they approved it. It's Michigan. Young people that barely carry any coverage cause they don't need it and make a high salary are getting screwed. They are paying for the subsidies.

Lots of states are going to see jacked up prices to pay for all the new coverage in states with much higher healthcare costs.

Yup, Michigan seems to be onside with Obamacare.

http://www.advisory.com/Daily-Briefi...ap#lightbox/2/

goof2 10-22-2013 10:43 AM

While the tally fluctuates a bit the media has pretty much settled in the vicinity of $300 million spent so far for the website.

http://money.cnn.com/2013/10/21/tech...cts/index.html

pauldun170 10-22-2013 12:08 PM

http://www.forbes.com/sites/anthonyk...ors_picks=true

OneSickPsycho 10-22-2013 12:24 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Qtx_ZcHOjw#t=554

RACER X 10-22-2013 01:07 PM

omg, glad I wasn't drinking coffee when watching that, lol

RACER X 10-22-2013 02:18 PM

0bamacare enrollment package:
It contained:
· An aspirin and a band-aid.
· An '0bama Hope & Change' bumper sticker
· A 'Bush's Fault' yard sign
· A 'Blame Republicans first, then anybody and everybody' poster
· A 'Tax the Rich' banner
· An application for unemployment and a free cellphone
· An application for food stamps
· A prayer rug
· A letter assigning my debt to my grandchildren

Everything was “Made in China" and all directions were in Spanish.
Keep an eye out.

...Yours should be arriving soon.

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Particle Man 11-05-2013 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by RACER X (Post 532445)

Perfect


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