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Old 03-06-2010, 02:47 PM   #1
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Default Judge dismisses suit over NJ teen driver decals

http://www.app.com/article/20100306/...-driver-decals

My own state. Now what, I have to put a sticker on my truck because my kid drives it sometimes? WTF?
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Old 03-06-2010, 03:10 PM   #2
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But in his ruling issued Friday, Brennan said that "operating a motor vehicle is not a
right, it's a privilege subject to state regulations."
A lawyer should have known that this would be the outcome prior to wasting the courts time.
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But in his ruling issued Friday, Brennan said that "operating a motor vehicle is not a right, it's a privilege subject to state regulations."
If he had said "operating a motor vehicle on public roads," I would agree.
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My own state. Now what, I have to put a sticker on my truck because my kid drives it sometimes? WTF?
gonna need one for yourself in a few years if we keep to japan's model
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The good ol' "Driving is not a right, its a privledge" argument. What a crock of shit.

I completely agree with the Dad that the plates will help Cops target and harass teen drivers.
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If this is something you disagree with, then you should petition your local government.
This is not a constitutional issue unless you can somehow prove that in all circumstances operating a motor vehicle which is a specific mode of transportation is an essential liberty covered by one the amendments AND that the amendment in question has been incorporated through the 14th amendment to apply to the states.

Its all tits and ice cream to claim that everything under the sun is a right, but legally the bill of rights is not applicable for everything we have grown accustomed too.
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So a Government can take away Constitutional freedoms but not add additional freedoms not covered in the original paperwork? Transportation, even as an idea, was so vastly different then from what we have now that I'm not sure why the original Constitution should be expected to cover this.

Nor am I arguing that State government should not have any control over public roads. I'm not anti-speed limit, stop signs etc, etc. I'm extremely anti-drunk driver and believe in the enforcement of reasonable traffic laws by state or local police departments. However, I disagree with being required by the State to identify yourself as being part of a specific population segment such as a teenager.

Rights, like privileges may be taken away. Therefore it is not necessary to look at driving as a "privilege" that the Government has complete control over to believe in the common-sense need for certain legislation. The overall view that open-travel is a luxury afforded to us only as a government allowed luxury is dangerous.
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The Russians kept the population from moving freely about the country. It was part and parcel to their control mechanisms. Perhaps people need to start thinking about it a little more as a right, or face being controlled.

Just a thought.

As for the increased scrutiny upon teens, I can tell you that my daughter has already had to face a ticket at the hands of a cop intent only to harass. I fear further for her now.
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I remember well being a teenage driver and constantly being pulled over and written completely bullshit tickets. It was only 10 years ago for me,

But you'll never convince the average American that they're being controlled. People as a majority still very much want to be told what to do and where to do, as long as it is in an indirect manner in the name of some various safety or security. To them, the more technology and power the govt' has to keep those baddies in their cages is all good. Its been said here numerous times, "Don't do nothing wrong and you have nothing to worry about." And that really is the honest mentality of most Americans.

So you can move, but I don't know where you'd go....or you can adapt.
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