Toyota + Drive-By-Wire = bad idea?

[Avatard]

http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-417367?hpt=Sbin

[Homeslice]

People seem to think drive by wire is new.......it's been on tons of luxury vehicles for quite some time.

And where is the uproar about sportbikes with it?

Sorry but cable throttles will eventually become obsolete.

[Avatard]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxP8LwSArYA

[goof2]

Originally Posted by Avatard

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxP8LwSArYA

You are using a crash that happened over 20 years ago as evidence? It also doesn't make much sense when you consider the A320 series (fly-by-wire) has a better record with their controls than the 737 (not fly-by-wire) it competes with. The 737s rudder problems resulted in several crashes.

[Tmall]

Originally Posted by goof2

You are using a crash that happened over 20 years ago as evidence? It also doesn't make much sense when you consider the A320 series (fly-by-wire) has a better record with their controls than the 737 (not fly-by-wire) it competes with. The 737s rudder problems resulted in several crashes.

You usually have multiple layers of redundancy built in to make sure that any damage or failures can quickly be compensated for by switching to another control line. Where as with mechanical, if something breaks it stops working unless you have a back up system in place.

It's hard to say though, both have their advantages and disadvantages. Just so happens that Toyota's mistake will shed a bad light on electronic control systems doing your job for you.

[goof2]

Originally Posted by Tmall

You usually have multiple layers of redundancy built in to make sure that any damage or failures can quickly be compensated for by switching to another control line. Where as with mechanical, if something breaks it stops working unless you have a back up system in place.

It's hard to say though, both have their advantages and disadvantages. Just so happens that Toyota's mistake will shed a bad light on electronic control systems doing your job for you.

I agree completely. I was simply pointing out that particular example Avatard provided was a poor one.

[101lifts2]

Electronic throttle control using redundant accelerator pedal sensor is a result of stringent emission regulation.

[Rider]

The 777 is fly by wire and I have yet to see any issues with it and that plane is almost 15 years old now. There are several newer models of airplane that are performing well using fly by wire. Shit, even Yamaha is using fly by wire technology in their motorcycles now. As long as there is redundancy in place in case of a failure, you'll be ok.

[Avatard]

Yeah, just add "check is in the mail" and "I won't come in your mouth", and you have a real "triple crown" of promise.

I'm reassured

[goof2]

Originally Posted by Avatard

Yeah, just add "check is in the mail" and "I won't come in your mouth", and you have a real "triple crown" of promise.

I'm reassured

A good record is better than reassurance. You choose to ignore both.