2010 WSBK testing at Phillip Island test 1

fnfalman · 02-24-2010, 12:57 AM

I'm curious but with the BMW putting out gobs and gobs of power with traction control and sophisticated suspension, then how come they kept running in the back of the group?

http://www.roadracerx.com/news/world...nd-test-day-1/

Times: 1. Checa C. (ESP) Ducati 1098R 1′31.959; 2. Fabrizio M. (ITA) Ducati 1098R 1′32.349; 3. Haslam L. (GBR) Suzuki GSX-R1000 1′32.484; 4. Haga N. (JPN) Ducati 1098R 1′32.518; 5. Rea J. (GBR) Honda CBR1000RR 1′32.544; 6. Byrne S. (GBR) Ducati 1098R 1′32.671; 7. Neukirchner M. (GER) Honda CBR1000RR 1′32.735; 8. Biaggi M. (ITA) Aprilia RSV4 1000 F. 1′32.832; 9. Smrz J. (CZE) Ducati 1098R 1′32.912; 10. Lanzi L. (ITA) Ducati 1098R 1′32.979; 11. Toseland J. (GBR) Yamaha YZF R1 1′33.135; 12. Guintoli S. (FRA) Suzuki GSX-R1000 1′33.190; 13. Sykes T. (GBR) Kawasaki ZX 10R 1′33.222; 14. Corser T. (AUS) BMW S1000 RR 1′33.299; 15. Crutchlow C. (GBR)Yamaha YZF R1 1′33.444; 16. Xaus R. (ESP) BMW S1000 RR 1′33.498

Dave · 02-24-2010, 01:47 AM

the other recently overhyped litre is doing shitty as well.

Amber Lamps · 02-24-2010, 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by fnfalman

I'm curious but with the BMW putting out gobs and gobs of power with traction control and sophisticated suspension, then how come they kept running in the back of the group?

http://www.roadracerx.com/news/world...nd-test-day-1/

Times: 1. Checa C. (ESP) Ducati 1098R 1′31.959; 2. Fabrizio M. (ITA) Ducati 1098R 1′32.349; 3. Haslam L. (GBR) Suzuki GSX-R1000 1′32.484; 4. Haga N. (JPN) Ducati 1098R 1′32.518; 5. Rea J. (GBR) Honda CBR1000RR 1′32.544; 6. Byrne S. (GBR) Ducati 1098R 1′32.671; 7. Neukirchner M. (GER) Honda CBR1000RR 1′32.735; 8. Biaggi M. (ITA) Aprilia RSV4 1000 F. 1′32.832; 9. Smrz J. (CZE) Ducati 1098R 1′32.912; 10. Lanzi L. (ITA) Ducati 1098R 1′32.979; 11. Toseland J. (GBR) Yamaha YZF R1 1′33.135; 12. Guintoli S. (FRA) Suzuki GSX-R1000 1′33.190; 13. Sykes T. (GBR) Kawasaki ZX 10R 1′33.222; 14. Corser T. (AUS) BMW S1000 RR 1′33.299; 15. Crutchlow C. (GBR)Yamaha YZF R1 1′33.444; 16. Xaus R. (ESP) BMW S1000 RR 1′33.498

That is a conundrum...

Amber Lamps · 02-24-2010, 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave

the other recently overhyped litre is doing shitty as well.

Not any worse than the Yamaha....

smileyman · 02-24-2010, 09:40 AM

According to knowledgable sources includin Corser himself the BMW had a stiff chassis and sudden power delivery. The key was trying to correct the issues and then find a TC package to adapt it to diff circuits.

Toseland will get used to the Yammie but lets face it those team riders aint Ben Spies!

The RSVs are probably testing new stuff at this early a test and Biaggi feels no pressure to top the sheets in testing so...Their other rider is new to the bike.

Dave · 02-24-2010, 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by TIGGER

Not any worse than the Yamaha....

lol! I was talking about the yamaha

z06boy · 02-24-2010, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave

lol! I was talking about the yamaha

Oh the bike that won last year...gotcha !! Wow another Yamaha won the SS class and Moto GP...damn pieces of crap !!

Oh that's right...it's the rider if they win but the bike if they come up short.

Speedracer42 · 02-24-2010, 10:32 AM

First. Its a fucking test. Its unlikely that they are trying to get every last tenth out of it just yet. Second. Testing is not racing. Its fun to see how people do in testing but its not necessarily indicitive of anything. When Rossi switched from Honda to Yamaha he was NOT leading the charts in the majority of tests. Yet he won the first race and the fucking championship in the first year. Give it time people.

z06boy · 02-24-2010, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Speedracer42

First. Its a fucking test. Its unlikely that they are trying to get every last tenth out of it just yet. Second. Testing is not racing. Its fun to see how people do in testing but its not necessarily indicitive of anything. When Rossi switched from Honda to Yamaha he was leading the charts in the majority of tests. Yet he won the first race and the fucking championship in the first year. Give it time people.

Yep pretty much !!

smileyman · 02-24-2010, 11:25 AM

Your right it is just a test. Something to consider is riders on last years 1098R's were lapping with data from last year and putting up good times. They likely won't see much improvement from that point. The Yammies were not likely to be using last years baseline and probably were working on their own due to 2 new riders, the BMWs were testing new parts and so were the RSVs so they weren't even looking for a baseline yet and will likely pick up a lot over the next test. The GSXR and ZX10 squads have new riders to break in as well, but they have last years development and probably not alot more to sqeeze out. sO...It is only a test...

02-24-2010, 12:57 AM	#1
fnfalman Europhile Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: SoCal Moto: Aprilia RS125, Aprilia SR50 Factory, Aprilia Tuono, BMW Rockster, KTM 990 Adventure Posts: 1,875	2010 WSBK testing at Phillip Island test 1 I'm curious but with the BMW putting out gobs and gobs of power with traction control and sophisticated suspension, then how come they kept running in the back of the group? http://www.roadracerx.com/news/world...nd-test-day-1/ Times: 1. Checa C. (ESP) Ducati 1098R 1′31.959; 2. Fabrizio M. (ITA) Ducati 1098R 1′32.349; 3. Haslam L. (GBR) Suzuki GSX-R1000 1′32.484; 4. Haga N. (JPN) Ducati 1098R 1′32.518; 5. Rea J. (GBR) Honda CBR1000RR 1′32.544; 6. Byrne S. (GBR) Ducati 1098R 1′32.671; 7. Neukirchner M. (GER) Honda CBR1000RR 1′32.735; 8. Biaggi M. (ITA) Aprilia RSV4 1000 F. 1′32.832; 9. Smrz J. (CZE) Ducati 1098R 1′32.912; 10. Lanzi L. (ITA) Ducati 1098R 1′32.979; 11. Toseland J. (GBR) Yamaha YZF R1 1′33.135; 12. Guintoli S. (FRA) Suzuki GSX-R1000 1′33.190; 13. Sykes T. (GBR) Kawasaki ZX 10R 1′33.222; 14. Corser T. (AUS) BMW S1000 RR 1′33.299; 15. Crutchlow C. (GBR)Yamaha YZF R1 1′33.444; 16. Xaus R. (ESP) BMW S1000 RR 1′33.498 __________________ *Cogito Ergo Vroom - I think therefore I ride*

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Dave Chaotic Neutral Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Cherry Hill NJ Moto: GV1200 Madura, Hawk gt Posts: 13,992	the other recently overhyped litre is doing shitty as well. __________________ TWF Post whore #6

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smileyman White Trash Hero Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NW Arkansas Moto: Buell 1125R Porco Rosso Edition Posts: 4,895	According to knowledgable sources includin Corser himself the BMW had a stiff chassis and sudden power delivery. The key was trying to correct the issues and then find a TC package to adapt it to diff circuits. Toseland will get used to the Yammie but lets face it those team riders aint Ben Spies! The RSVs are probably testing new stuff at this early a test and Biaggi feels no pressure to top the sheets in testing so...Their other rider is new to the bike. __________________ Arkriders.com To be the best you must first be willing to risk the worst!

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Speedracer42 Kneedragger Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: PDX Posts: 170	First. Its a fucking test. Its unlikely that they are trying to get every last tenth out of it just yet. Second. Testing is not racing. Its fun to see how people do in testing but its not necessarily indicitive of anything. When Rossi switched from Honda to Yamaha he was NOT leading the charts in the majority of tests. Yet he won the first race and the fucking championship in the first year. Give it time people. Last edited by Speedracer42; 02-24-2010 at 10:50 AM..

02-24-2010, 11:25 AM	#10
smileyman White Trash Hero Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NW Arkansas Moto: Buell 1125R Porco Rosso Edition Posts: 4,895	Your right it is just a test. Something to consider is riders on last years 1098R's were lapping with data from last year and putting up good times. They likely won't see much improvement from that point. The Yammies were not likely to be using last years baseline and probably were working on their own due to 2 new riders, the BMWs were testing new parts and so were the RSVs so they weren't even looking for a baseline yet and will likely pick up a lot over the next test. The GSXR and ZX10 squads have new riders to break in as well, but they have last years development and probably not alot more to sqeeze out. sO...It is only a test... __________________ Arkriders.com To be the best you must first be willing to risk the worst!